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- June 10, 2011 at 1:09 pm #84183
Q3 Con’t figure out what calculations to do, .’. had nothing to seriously discuss. Time pressed, Damn! Hoping for 50.
June 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm #84185AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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hope to get atleat 50.GOD PLESE HELP!
June 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm #84186AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@rizenzo i do not remember 6 marks for exch rates question? i remember it 4 mrks…..because money mkt & forw contract was 7 mks, Work Capital policy was 7 mks and bulk purchase and early settlement was 7 mks, which leaves only 4 for exch rates…..from what i remember.
June 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm #84187AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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thanks grassrots…this means I wrote a page for 4 marks! Closer to the margin now, but still falling on the right side of the 50% ledger by my reckoning. That said, I think the analysis exercise use is greater for understanding ourselves in exams versus getting an accurate reading of the final results…based on my past results vs expectations, I think it depends how late in the evening it is when the marker is looking at your paper, whether they got out of bed on the right side, and how much wine they’ve drunk by the time they’ve got to your paper.
June 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm #84188AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Exch ques was for 5 marks. Hedging and forward was 6 marks
June 10, 2011 at 2:17 pm #84189AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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it ws hell a hell paper…. 🙁 tricky hell triicckkyy….:@
June 10, 2011 at 2:17 pm #84190AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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it ws hell a hell paper…. 🙁 tricky hell triicckkyy….:@
June 10, 2011 at 2:57 pm #84191AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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oh yeh i think u are right mcwilliams, exch rate question was 5 mrks actually 🙂 ……my mistake. Anyway i think the question pper will be online 2morrow so know for sure then.
June 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm #84192@grassrotts said:
oh yeh i think u are right mcwilliams, exch rate question was 5 mrks actually 🙂 ……my mistake. Anyway i think the question pper will be online 2morrow so know for sure then.I think Q1 (a) NPV was worth 13 marks. Did you get NPV $1,2m? If yes that would be a good start.
Also queston on working capital policy is to do with aggressive/conservative and management attitude to risk.
Scrip dividend I wrote about issuing shares instead of taking dividends – effectively still raising equity. I think this was worth 5 marks.
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@joevassallo well i got 791000 for npv but that is because i did not incorporate inflation 🙁 so i think ur npv is right.
i think work capital answer wuld b aggresive/conservative etc, but i also wrote abt expected Work capital needs for period such as debts to b paid etc and whether mgmt wants to improve liquidty position and to possibility 2 attract new customers with discounts or longer repayment periods etc. …..i hope i get 7/7 mrks here cause i wrote a lot :p
and yeh scrip dividends are issuing shares in lieu of dividend but i 4got 2 write it is an option, and not mandatory for existing shareholders. They choose between cash & new shares.June 10, 2011 at 3:47 pm #84194@grassrotts said:
@joevassallo well i got 791000 for npv but that is because i did not incorporate inflation 🙁 so i think ur npv is right.
i think work capital answer wuld b aggresive/conservative etc, but i also wrote abt expected Work capital needs for period such as debts to b paid etc and whether mgmt wants to improve liquidty position and to possibility 2 attract new customers with discounts or longer repayment periods etc. …..i hope i get 7/7 mrks here cause i wrote a lot :p
and yeh scrip dividends are issuing shares in lieu of dividend but i 4got 2 write it is an option, and not mandatory for existing shareholders. They choose between cash & new shares.I think you wrote more about working capital management rather than policy. I hope you score good marks just the same. Do you remember how may marks it had? Also re NPV did you release the working capital in year 4? I did but I saw some comments that it should not. Not sure here. If released hope to get full marks here. I think you will only lose 3 marks for the inflation part.
June 10, 2011 at 4:56 pm #84195AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@joevassallo yeh work capital ques was 7 mrks, im reasonably sure.
I interpreted the project as continuing so i didnt release work capital. They said the reason for using 4 yrs npv calcluation was because the exact cash flows were uncertain beyond yr 4, however the project was expected 2 continue beyond 4 yrs, just level of cash flows was uncertain. Project continuity seemed certain…..just my interpretation.
June 10, 2011 at 5:19 pm #84196I messed up big time with question 1 and 3.Praying for a 50%
June 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm #84197AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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working capital had to be released in the 4th year because the project calculation was prepared only for 4 years (although the director expected sales after the 4th he didnt incorporate it into the calculations as they were too uncertain). and we had to reperform the director’s calculations.
in part (b) WC had to be ignored (and also tax).
i got an NPV of 1,2 m USD.in part (c) i wrote about liquidity and profitability as the question was not about working capital FUNDING policy.
June 10, 2011 at 5:45 pm #84198@adrienn said:
working capital had to be released in the 4th year because the project calculation was prepared only for 4 years (although the director expected sales after the 4th he didnt incorporate it into the calculations as they were too uncertain). and we had to reperform the director’s calculations.
in part (b) WC had to be ignored (and also tax).
i got an NPV of 1,2 m USD.in part (c) i wrote about liquidity and profitability as the question was not about working capital FUNDING policy.
I agree 100% with you – I got NPV $1.2m as well. My interpretation was NPV for a 4 year project.
Regarding WC Policy – you are right aggressive/conservative is FUNDING but again my interpretation is about funding. Because that is what WC is all about really, also management attitude to risk, previous policy decisions, size/organisation.June 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm #84199AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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NPV
Selling price
V c
F c, all in current price term they all must inflated by 3%
For Example,
In calculation of profit year 3.
Selling price was 5 per box, so increase in selling price 3% , 3 times,
Variable cost in sales volume in year 3 were in current price, so increase vc 3% 3 times.
Fixed cost in year 3 was higher then year 2. Because sales volume increase in year 3. FC was increamental Fc, it was increasing with sales volume. Fc in year 3 increase by 3% 3 times. To obtain year 3 Fc.
Tax was 1 year in arear. 1 year tax take in year2.
Capital allowance 25 reducing method.
Working capital in year 0 was 750000. Increase 3% for 4 yr, ignore working capital recovery because buisness is cont aft 4 year mentioned in frst para.
Nominal discount factor use
Npv arriveJune 10, 2011 at 6:01 pm #84200@frank26 said:
NPV
Selling price
V c
F c, all in current price term they all must inflated by 3%
For Example,
In calculation of profit year 3.
Selling price was 5 per box, so increase in selling price 3% , 3 times,
Variable cost in sales volume in year 3 were in current price, so increase vc 3% 3 times.
Fixed cost in year 3 was higher then year 2. Because sales volume increase in year 3. FC was increamental Fc, it was increasing with sales volume. Fc in year 3 increase by 3% 3 times. To obtain year 3 Fc.
Tax was 1 year in arear. 1 year tax take in year2.
Capital allowance 25 reducing method.
Working capital in year 0 was 750000. Increase 3% for 4 yr, ignore working capital recovery because buisness is cont aft 4 year mentioned in frst para.
Nominal discount factor use
Npv arriveI think you are wrong about Selling price – to me it should be $5+3% Year 1, then $5.15+3% Year 2, $5.30+3% Year 3 and $5.46+3% Year 4.
I agree with the VC/FC workings.
WC though has to be released in Y4 because the NPV was for 4years (and there was uncertainty).
Part b I thought was about project continuing for the foreseeable future.June 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm #84201AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Dec 2010 Q1,
About working capital,
project is continuing after 4 year, the point he share with us in question was his kind of persnal statement not related to the exam question, he said we believe may be the sale stop after 4 year, thats why he ask for perpetuity im q1 (b), four year calculation policy not the actual life of the project, so no need to be recover wc in year 4 must inflate in year 3% every yearJune 10, 2011 at 6:32 pm #84202AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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you are right about selling price this exactly i am saying
June 10, 2011 at 6:39 pm #84203@frank26 said:
you are right about selling price this exactly i am sayingWe have to wait and see – maybe you are correct. I dont think a lot of marks will be lost, not sure. So what was your final NPV result. I got $1.2m
Also I think liquidity/profitability is to do with WC management.
On interest/inflation Q4 I mentioned IPRT/PPRT. Do you agree.June 10, 2011 at 7:12 pm #84204AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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when do they pubish the answers? when we get the results or earlier?
June 10, 2011 at 7:15 pm #84205AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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@joevassallo said:
Do you know when they put the questions/answers on the Acca website?I don’t know ..
June 10, 2011 at 7:33 pm #84208AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@joevassallo said:
Do you know when they put the questions/answers on the Acca website?that was my question, thanks 🙂
i know that exam results are coming on th 22nd, but it would be good to see the answers a bit earlier. - AuthorPosts
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