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- December 11, 2015 at 10:58 pm #291233
MCQ when someone selling a company – was the answer – the cost of replacing the assets?
December 11, 2015 at 11:10 pm #291236Did any of you guys discounted the cost of the machine in year 1 and not year 0 as it was mentioned in the question that the machine is going to be paid on the first year of its life.
I found that part tricky. The rest was easy…
December 12, 2015 at 2:40 am #291256AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Yes i did
December 12, 2015 at 3:33 am #291260What was the Equivalent Annual cost for 5 years asset? 5th year NPV was 777140. MCQ F9
December 12, 2015 at 5:25 am #291265Reading all these feed backs, I am scared stiff. Fingers crossed and trusting in God to see me through.
December 12, 2015 at 5:27 am #291267AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did same
December 12, 2015 at 6:39 am #291280For the NPV question, A cash flow that occurs at the start of the year is taken to occur and the end of the previous year. So a payment at the beginning of the first year is taken to occur at th end of year 0. And so you don’t discount it in time 1 but time 0.
December 12, 2015 at 6:55 am #291282Anybody used in NPV question real WACC, not nominal? I used and didn’t add any inflation. Since the inflation is general it must gives the same result as using nominal rate with inflation, but it much more faster in calculations.
December 12, 2015 at 7:39 am #291287@marchenkov said:
Anybody used in NPV question real WACC, not nominal? I used and didn’t add any inflation. Since the inflation is general it must gives the same result as using nominal rate with inflation, but it much more faster in calculations.The question specifically asked to do it in nominal terms
December 12, 2015 at 8:24 am #291295AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The paper wasn’t bad at all. MCQ where not that bad at all.
Managed to get through q1-q4 pretty ok. But then realised I was running out of time for q5.
I then firstly answered part b of the question and talked about the irrelevant theory. Then with 10mins left tried to do the wacc but my mind stopped working cz I was panicking.
Managed to only calculated the cost of debt of the original loan note using irr.
By the time everything started coming back to me time was out. So I did not calculate cost of equity which was easy marks or the the market values or the actual wacc, so I’m so disappointed tht I didn’t finish a question I know perfectly well how to do.
In my head I’m like surely they won’t let someone pass who didn’t even do the wacc ahhhhh
This is depressing
December 12, 2015 at 8:50 am #291300@kudzi123 said:
The paper wasn’t bad at all. MCQ where not that bad at all.Managed to get through q1-q4 pretty ok. But then realised I was running out of time for q5.
I then firstly answered part b of the question and talked about the irrelevant theory. Then with 10mins left tried to do the wacc but my mind stopped working cz I was panicking.
Managed to only calculated the cost of debt of the original loan note using irr.
By the time everything started coming back to me time was out. So I did not calculate cost of equity which was easy marks or the the market values or the actual wacc, so I’m so disappointed tht I didn’t finish a question I know perfectly well how to do.
In my head I’m like surely they won’t let someone pass who didn’t even do the wacc ahhhhh
This is depressing</blockqu
If you managed to get 50% on rest of paper, market couldn’t care less whether you know Wacc or not. Good luck to you. I found it time pressures too. Managed to get through the Mcqs in about 40 mins to free up a further 30 mins on longer questions…..I finished paper with 3 minutes to spare!!!
December 12, 2015 at 9:05 am #291309AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@chris1975z said:
Thank you @chris1975z for the positivity. Goodluck to you too!
December 12, 2015 at 9:37 am #291315I thought this was a much fairer paper than the September one though I didn’t have much time to revise. I used the reading time to work out answers to the MCQs. I remember thinking the first 4 seemed easy and overall were better than last time. Not a lot of calculations. I didn’t look at part B until we were allowed to start.
I went really badly over time with Q4 NPV which I started with. Tied myself in knots when this should have been straightforward. Don’t know if I wrote enough about rationing. Cant remember mark allocation.
Did Q5 next and couldn’t get brain to work out equity cost of capital. I did the redeemable loan notes and just filled in what I could for the weighted bit without the equity. I hope I get some marks.
Did the receivables question next but didn’t complete it. Some of my calculations may have scored marks. For part B I had answered and then read question again. Realised they were asking something else and tried to throw some stuff down.
Q on Foreign Exchange I messed up.
I did Q1 last and was really short of time. Couldn’t complete again.
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December 12, 2015 at 9:42 am #291317when will result be known?
and may I register (if I fail ) for march session ?December 12, 2015 at 10:38 am #291331I just divided it by the number of years which is 5 and ended up with the lowest figure.
December 12, 2015 at 11:11 am #291336I thought it was a fair enough exam also. I did not have a lot of time to study on this one. Maybe 6 weeks with an F5 repeat. F5 took probably 60% of my attention. I am also due to start P1, but I am going to keep going over F5 and 9, particularly f9. I kind of froze in the exam and made some silly mistakes. It wasn’t a lock of knowledge, just a total brain freeze. But to be fair, the exam itself was straight up and fair. If I pass F5 I will be happy and take F9 in March with correct preperation. Who knows though, I may be over the line.
December 12, 2015 at 12:01 pm #291344It was lead payment to be accepted not the money market hedge.
December 12, 2015 at 2:31 pm #291361i dint remember mcqs
December 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm #291363@rockstar.skans said:
It was lead payment to be accepted not the money market hedge.I got the same result, the company gets in dollars more using the forward rate .
December 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm #291401Q1a. Gearing calculation. 4 marks. This one took me particularly long to work out, somehow I got a bit confused. I believe is was 38.5% D:E.
Q1b. Discussion on previous question. 6 marks. I calculated interest cover would have gone down (4.6 times if I remember correctly), and gearing would have gone up to about 58% I think. Spoke about how they should consider using equity finance and that the competitors are probably using more short term debt as their interest cover is high comparison to their level of debt.Q2a. Forex. 5 marks. Hedging most expensive, forward 2nd most, and leading (500,000 pesos x spot rate) cheapest.
Q2b. Pros and cons of futures. 5 marks. I basically said they’re forwards which can be traded and discussed the pros and cons.Q3a. Receivables management. 6 marks. Really kicking myself on this one for forgetting to include the increase in profit, so I got a negative figure.
Q3b. Foreign receivables management discussion. 4 marks. I mentioned that the main risk is bad debts, and ways of countering was export factoring and export insurance and some discussion on those. Didn’t mention transaction risk though, didn’t seem relevant.Q4a. NPV. 10 marks. I forgot to inflate the working capital. I inflated selling price, variable and fixed cost. Some are saying FC shouldn’t be inflated but I’m quite sure every past question inflated FC. Discounted using 11%, came to something like 1122 positive I believe. I’m also not entirely sure what the examiner meant by calculate in nominal terms, never came across an NPV question worded that way.
Q4b. Capital rationing. 5 marks. I discussed hard cap, i.e. economy wide and company specific; and soft cap, internally imposed such as budgets etc.Q5a. WACC. 10 marks. Also kicking myself for this one. I forgot to calculate the WACC before. I think it came to around 11%. Interest on bank loan had to be tax adjusted, the loan notes had to have their IRR found, the new loan notes (bond?) had the cost of debt and market value already given. And of course equity, the number of shares was 12m/0.50 x 3.45 I think, definitely excluding reserves cause its market value.
Q5b. Dividend policy. 5 marks. I think I messed this one up as I spoke about the dividend valuation model and the limitations of the figures involved in it. I didn’t even mention M&M, but I think I put something in regarding the signalling effect. From what everyone else said, I think I went off point.As for MCQs, I know I got a lot of As in the beginning and q15 and q20 both had me stuck for some time. In fact, I couldn’t arrive to any of the answers for no. 15 and 20, they drove me mad. The MCQs seemed OK, but I had a habit of feeling like I did OK in them and messing up big time. Quite concerned about this one.
December 12, 2015 at 9:09 pm #291420for the wacc qn i got 11% for before and after as I rounded off the figures…hence my analysis was based on the fact that wacc doesnt change – did anyone do anything of a similar nature?
for the npv qn i got a positive 1046..anyone got the same answer….i added working capital to the initial investment and then recovered it at the end of year 4 ( i found the PV for year 4 so got around 180 )..this was subsequently deducted from the tax calculation..did anyone do something siimilar..i believe even if u had calculated working capital separatley the year 4 figure would have been 180 odd…
does anyone know if we get penalised for untidyness ? my workings were all over the place..
December 13, 2015 at 12:01 am #291426Same here! 🙂 Hope we are correct.
December 13, 2015 at 6:39 am #291442heard paper was very easy
December 13, 2015 at 7:38 am #291447I have found WACC 11.65% and 11.25% after taking the new loan. Reduction 0.40%. Found MCQ answer mostly in A&D(70%) 20% in B and 10% in C. Worried with my MCQ. what u found ………………….
December 13, 2015 at 8:34 am #291453@ Chriss………my answer also same with u for Q2 & Q4. In Q2 i can’t consider the NP10%& Total NPV is near about 1.4m.
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