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- December 5, 2014 at 8:57 pm #218707
I am devastated. I worked really hard but unfortunately I am not confident at all.
MCQ’s were very hard compared to BPP’s revision kit and I did ALL of the MCQ’s in the revision kit plus the ones on iPass.
These ones were on another level. Plus lots of things that were not in the text book.
Good luck everyone. I think I have told myself already that I am re writing in June.
December 5, 2014 at 9:02 pm #218709I got the same figures used 10 & 3 % and I ended up with the wack figure of 8.2%
Npv was $2465 for me
December 5, 2014 at 9:09 pm #218713Mcq was brutal. Reverse yield gap? Never heard of it, ever. Not in my study notes at all. Found it in my study book, five lines buried in the middle of a 450 page text-heavy book.
Definitely failed.
December 5, 2014 at 9:22 pm #218719I got a lot of C’s as well
December 5, 2014 at 9:53 pm #218724The paper over was ok for me.
First question I attempted was the NPV…. Careful inflating my cash flows. I had to go with my gut on whether of not to inflated in interest on the loan… And I did because It is a fixed cost. Got and NPV of 2 millions or something!
Cash budget was good
Fx was a little tricky…. Had to read over the requirements like 5 times! I compared the spot rate of the receipt and then the forward which resulted in a net LOSS…
the WACC was a little time consuming for me…. Mainly on the Cost of debt part… Overall I believe I got 11% (maybe from my rounding.) can any one tell me if the wacc under both method got extremely different WACC…?
Also the discussion on the invest in shares when there is a cash surplus… I said yes and discussed why! Idk if that’s correct…
Over the paper is ok! Idk how to feel but I believe I’ll pass…. Share your thoughts guys.
December 5, 2014 at 10:00 pm #218728I seem to be bucking the trend, I sat the exam with no real expectation of passing as i was concentrating on F7 and P1 and just sat it for the experience, hoping to get lucky, well I think I did!
The MCQ’s seemed surprisingly easy and I would be surprised if i got less than 30 marks on that section (shame we won’t know which section we did best on.)
Then I only did questions 1, 2, 3 and the discussion parts only of 4 and 5 as I ran out of time after realizing I had made a stupid mistake in 2b by discussing using dividend growth to calculate share price rather than price/earnings ratio, by the time I had gone back and done it again I didn’t have much time left.
NB: I deal with foreign exchange regularly and have a SIPP .
How lucky can you get, Just goes to show you should sit exams even if you expect to failPS. Q2. Foreign country s interest rate was 4%
December 5, 2014 at 10:11 pm #218731@kermillia said:
The paper over was ok for me.First question I attempted was the NPV…. Careful inflating my cash flows. I had to go with my gut on whether of not to inflated in interest on the loan… And I did because It is a fixed cost. Got and NPV of 2 millions or something!
Cash budget was good
Fx was a little tricky…. Had to read over the requirements like 5 times! I compared the spot rate of the receipt and then the forward which resulted in a net LOSS…
the WACC was a little time consuming for me…. Mainly on the Cost of debt part… Overall I believe I got 11% (maybe from my rounding.) can any one tell me if the wacc under both method got extremely different WACC…?
Also the discussion on the invest in shares when there is a cash surplus… I said yes and discussed why! Idk if that’s correct…
Over the paper is ok! Idk how to feel but I believe I’ll pass…. Share your thoughts guys.
loan or interest should not be included in NPV as far as i know…
December 5, 2014 at 10:11 pm #218732@kermillia said:
The paper over was ok for me.First question I attempted was the NPV…. Careful inflating my cash flows. I had to go with my gut on whether of not to inflated in interest on the loan… And I did because It is a fixed cost. Got and NPV of 2 millions or something!
Cash budget was good
Agree, I thought this was easy marks!
Fx was a little tricky…. Had to read over the requirements like 5 times! I compared the spot rate of the receipt and then the forward which resulted in a net LOSS…
Agree net loss.
the WACC was a little time consuming for me…. Mainly on the Cost of debt part… Overall I believe I got 11% (maybe from my rounding.) can any one tell me if the wacc under both method got extremely different WACC…?
Also the discussion on the invest in shares when there is a cash surplus… I said yes and discussed why! Idk if that’s correct…
I said no as it was short term and stocks can be high risk, better looking at treasury bonds or reducing debt if the cost was higher than current available investments.
Over the paper is ok! Idk how to feel but I believe I’ll pass…. Share your thoughts guys.
December 5, 2014 at 10:31 pm #218736The two revision meant what you did differently when you redrafted the npv calculation. One of them for sure was the depreciation. The junior accountant included it as part of the original calculation and another was the inflation…I think
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In question 2 regards p/e ratio i did market value = p/e ratio * earnings is this gd???
December 5, 2014 at 11:16 pm #218745The new exam system of MCQ is really good. It saves a lot of cost for ACCA.
But it is not so good for students.There is a lot of problem in explaining our answers and do not give us a flexibility to present our concepts. Eventhough our numbers can be wrong but our concepts can be correct. And that’s what mattered previously.
The questions asked in F9 MCQs were a disaster. 70% of the MCQs were tricky and involved very complicated terminology, which required a lot of time to digest for interpreting the result.
Thanks
December 5, 2014 at 11:16 pm #218746@negi.jayendra@gmail.com said:
The new exam system of MCQ is really good. It saves a lot of cost for ACCA.
But it is not so good for students.There is a lot of problem in explaining our answers and do not give us a flexibility to present our concepts. Eventhough our numbers can be wrong but our concepts can be correct. And that’s what mattered previously.
The questions asked in F9 MCQs were a disaster. 70% of the MCQs were tricky and involved very complicated terminology, which required a lot of time to digest for interpreting the result.
Thanks
December 5, 2014 at 11:17 pm #218747Same
December 5, 2014 at 11:56 pm #218749Colleagues; Please stop calling fail on yourself; it will come automatically – just ask for love and mercy, which every way you preferred; pass.
Let me correct those who use the interest on loan in their appraisal – it is incorrect! The cost of capital – normal at 12% has taken care of that already and general inflation. Please remember the reasons for cost of capital ant that it is the overall cost of obtaining financing (debt/equity) for business operation. The bank loan is debt and MUST be ignore in investment appraisal.
Do not aggravate yourself and get your friends on the edge. There is nothing to hold or hedge against until February 8, 2015 – 06.00AM UK time.
The paper should be up by Tuesday, after this we can just take the time to revisit the questions – assessing how we function under the pressure of the MCQ’s; they destroyed the peace and tranquility!!!! It is also important that we look at some CFA questions too. I presumed ACCA is competing; but the US base technical exam is much easier than ACCA!!!!! This is the BEST for GLOBAL qualification – practical in nature.
The pass rate for ACCA F9 is extremely LOW and the administrative body should take note – average 42% pass this paper (2007 – 2014). This dictate the difficulties that we face and need LOVE & MERCY from ALL those who will handle our papers. Everyday you rise say – Thank you markers for the required pass mark and anything extra you have available!!!!!!!!
December 5, 2014 at 11:58 pm #218750the multiple choice questions were brutal – i only knew about 4 of them with any confidence. another 8-10 i worked out with a reasonable attempt and the others were complete guesses.
most of them i had never read about or heard of, and i would be sitting there thinking “ok, i think it is number 2” – but number 2 came up in the option to pick 1 & 2, 2&3 or 1,2&4 – i was then sat there trying to make sense of the other statements not having a clue, so was a complete guess.
annoyingly, some of the questions said “which of the following statements ARE correct” and then gave an option to pick more than one statement, and then some questions (question 6 was one of them) said “which of the following statments IS correct” – which would imply you only picked one statement, but i was sat there thinking it is definately D, but i am sure it is B as well – but were we only supposed to pick one letter when there wasn’t an option to pick more than one?
after i navigated my way through them i thought the following:
question 1 was ok
question 2 was horrible
really liked question 3 and foreign risk (like that topic)
question 4 threw me when i first read through the paper – originally it freaked me out and i thought it was a huge question about relevant cash flows (incremental, future cashflows etc) – then i re-read it and realised it was a NPV question. annoyingly i included the loan interest in the answer 🙁 but, that will only be 1 mark wrong and i should still get plenty of follow through marks
question 5 was ok – wacc was ok, market value of wacc i completely lost it on, and the second part i just wrote loads about traditional theory, M&M with tax, pecking order theory, objectives of a company (to maximise shareholders wealth etc).i am praying for 50%, but i fear i have ruined my chances with a horrible multiple choice question set.
December 6, 2014 at 1:10 am #218754Did you guys leave out or include the Long Term Bank Loan in the Prior Charge Cap/Equity Ratio? giving 7.3% instead of 15%? It was an MCQ
December 6, 2014 at 1:22 am #218755MCQ #1 was a real bugger! I looked at it and know how to figure Price / divis / Shareholders Return etc etc but that really threw me… Thought if they are all like this I have no chance. I skipped it and found the rest to be fair but then returned after all of section B spent another 3-4 mins on it and guessed randomly ‘c’.
I didnt blindly guess any F7s even though I know some will be incorrect. But this one made no sense. Compared to the BPP revision kit the MCQs for both F7 and F9 were twice as hard 🙁 Just want 50% on both!
December 6, 2014 at 3:12 am #218759Is it a problem if i forgot to tick the number of questions i have attempted or if i ticked questions 1,2,3 when in fact i attempted all 5 questions. will this cause any difference in marking etc….
December 6, 2014 at 7:23 am #218769AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Exam was tough …. Not sure about MCQ answers, but saved it in my calculator by 1234 waiting for open tuition answers so that I can check them hopefully, I am gonna Pass.
December 6, 2014 at 7:51 am #218774Hi All
I’m glad I’m not the only one that felt section A was very difficult I had to hazard a guess on most of the wordy questions and have never seen them in my notes!
For the Fx question 3 to work out the other countries interest rate did you just need to rearrange the formula??
When will you be posting the answers to this paper? Many thanks
December 6, 2014 at 8:18 am #218776When will u post the answer to us?
Please????December 6, 2014 at 8:19 am #218777@anukis said:
Is it a problem if i forgot to tick the number of questions i have attempted or if i ticked questions 1,2,3 when in fact i attempted all 5 questions. will this cause any difference in marking etc….Damn…I did the same thing.
December 6, 2014 at 9:01 am #218790AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Npv was like this.
Sales VCs and fixed costs all needed inflating properly. It tried tricking you into thinking eg sales prices had already tried to have been inflated all from 25 but that wasn’t the case, none of the prices had been inflated.
I did include interest because it definitely was a relevant cost because it specifically said in the question ‘used to finance the investment’ but it was placed wrongly. As we know it should be sales less cost of sales equals profit, then we take off interest and this is the figure we tax. Then the deduct tax. The depreciation was calculated wrongly, had to be redone on a reducing balance basis. Once that is added back on, normal story from there and I ended up with 3 mil and somethingDecember 6, 2014 at 9:01 am #218791AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@avnisapan said:
Damn…I did the same thing.Shouldn’t be a problem, I haven’t times any in the past and still passed
December 6, 2014 at 9:24 am #218792Hello, MCQ where really hard some of the theory ones never heard them before.
Anyone remembers the answer for the MCQ the probabilty of income and the expected balance? It was like 0.7, 0.3,0.1, the last probaility the was negative.
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