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- December 6, 2013 at 12:31 pm #151044December 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm #151128
it was a fair paper, but i didn’t manage to get the same NPV for question 1 a and 1b. i get a slight difference? anyone having a slight difference also in the net present value? but i got some same present value in year 1 and 3 i guess
December 6, 2013 at 5:01 pm #151132Hi Guys,
do you know how the Q4 (a) was to calculate? It was a question for 10 points leasing vs loan. It was too less data given and could not identify which method was to apply to calculate sum of leasing payments….
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
December 6, 2013 at 5:02 pm #151133I got a slight difference too, but I thought I was meant to! I can’t see what I did wrong otherwise.
I thought the paper was much easier than I expected, but I hope I’m not tempting fate by saying that!
December 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm #151134i solved that question by calculating the net present value of leasing and also purchasing the machine outright. using the financing cost which is 7% as discount factor.
December 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm #151135AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I thought the same thing… 🙁 Didn’t understand how to solve it 🙁
December 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm #151136I had a big difference for leasing payments and the loan….
December 6, 2013 at 5:04 pm #151138For question 4, I just worked out the leasing costs, and then worked out the buying costs, and then stated which was cheaper.
December 6, 2013 at 5:05 pm #151139ya, neilsolaris, i remember i did that type of question before and i get the exact same amount of NPV. i spend 15 minutes rechecking where did i went wrong, but i simply can’t find it, so i managed to continue with other questions. Manage to complete all 4 questions. Hoping for 70++ or perhaps 80
December 6, 2013 at 5:05 pm #151140The question had 10 points. It should have been something sophisticated.
And they asked to explain the method. I think it should have been s specific approach to it.December 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm #151141the leasing was cheaper right, about 600K++ and the purchasing was 700K++ can’t remember the amount but i know it starts with 6 for leasing and 7 for purchasing
December 6, 2013 at 5:08 pm #151142and the early settlement discount(ESD) was quite tricky, this time it’s where to give ESD instead of whether to accept the ESD
December 6, 2013 at 5:08 pm #151143AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For the leasing question where did you let get the discount factor from?
I found question 3 tricky on the buffer stock
December 6, 2013 at 5:09 pm #151144AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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It was manageable, the paper pertained the followings EOQ, buffer stock, npv cash flow calculation both on real and nominal cost of capital, asset beta factor, lease and buy and a lot of theory
December 6, 2013 at 5:09 pm #151145can anyone tell me what the npv was it arround 3500 of 4000
December 6, 2013 at 5:09 pm #151146I calculated the leasing option as being cheaper too. I didn’t elaborate about my method (I forgot to), but I just mentioned that the leasing was cheaper and so was preferable. I think I might have mentioned that a pre-tax discount factor was used because tax was not involved. Other than that, I’m not sure what else could be said.
December 6, 2013 at 5:09 pm #151147AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For q1 was it correct to inflate part a and not inflate for part b?
December 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm #151149Yes I got that with leasing and that was the best option as it was cheaper.
For question 1 part a) I used 12% as discount rate and B) I used 7%.
Did anyone get WACC as 11.24?%
Also for question 3, can anyone remember what they got? I did 12xorder price.
December 6, 2013 at 5:11 pm #151150the 7% of financing cost. it’s stated in the purchasing option, it is the same as the question in ASOP Co, where you only take the financing cost as ur discount factor
December 6, 2013 at 5:12 pm #151151@nizarsalleh: I did the same but maybe have chosen the wrong discount factor.
I had 155K*4years annuity for 7% for leasing.
Ok guys, it does not matter anymore.
lets hope for the best 🙂December 6, 2013 at 5:14 pm #1511537% for real discount rate is what I think I used (I’m no good at remembering numbers!). Basically, I calculated the real discount rate as 1 + mominal rate / 1 + inflation rate.
I also did 12 x order cost for the first section. For the EOQ it’s something like 300,000 / EOQ x ordering cost.
December 6, 2013 at 5:14 pm #151154I got thrown off with a Market research bit and so i put (200,000) in year 0 and (2000,000) in year 1. Not sure but I hate positive NPV!
December 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm #151157I got a different NPV under a and b. i think i made a mistake when I calculate the rear rate of return. I took a nominal rate of 12% rather than 17%. accordingly i arrived at rear rate of 7% but the correct is 8%.
December 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm #151158do we have to insert yr0 for npv and insert (2000)
December 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm #151159I assumed the market research was a sunk cost, and was there as a red herring. I could be wrong though.
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