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- December 7, 2012 at 2:53 pm #110681
Easier than last sitting bt q4 a bit hard…Fixed Cost to be included in NPV calculation i fink…
December 7, 2012 at 2:55 pm #110682AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Fixed costs i believe should have been included as they would not have been incurred if the houses were not built and therefore they are a relevant cost.
I thought the last question was very difficult π
December 7, 2012 at 2:56 pm #110683AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Also where was the financial ratio analysis question!!! I memorised them all. Gutted!!
December 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm #110684AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I think Q4 was …Calculation and discussion on MV, NA, P/E ratio a DVM/ DGM Valuation methods, Debt / Equity Ratio on MV and BV calculation and discussion of benefit of using MV
December 7, 2012 at 3:00 pm #110685AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@michael18 said:
complete disaster for question 4 πme toooo
December 7, 2012 at 3:00 pm #110686AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Fixed cost to be deducted by 1500 each year but not inflated fix cost.
December 7, 2012 at 3:02 pm #110687AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@kbshs said:
I think Q4 was …Calculation and discussion on MV, NA, P/E ratio a DVM/ DGM Valuation methods, Debt / Equity Ratio on MV and BV calculation and discussion of benefit of using MVah yes i did a couple of ratios but i was expecting a complete company analysis with ratios, i did not do well at all on this one
December 7, 2012 at 3:03 pm #110688Hi everyone.
q1 ARR=28 %. did anybody else got that. btw very lengthy paper.December 7, 2012 at 3:03 pm #110689very easy paper
no calculations on forex, no analysing of finacial statements with ratios, which i hate.all qns were straight forward.
only area i struggled were relative merits of each business valuation methods. (8 marks).
Npv around 550 k
ist qns.2nd
benefit of 14k if we choose cash discounting3rd
WACC 9% including overdraft, i didnt do WACC without overdraft. overdraft was 15 m.
preference share 12%
convertible debt 5.78% approx 6%
equity cost, 10%
overdraft 6%4th
question no complicated calculations.December 7, 2012 at 3:04 pm #110690AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Too much difficult calculations So much theoretical element as well
December 7, 2012 at 3:04 pm #110691December 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm #110692oh i missed forex question. prepared it really well.
December 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm #110693AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Inflated Fixed cost to be included each year as it is solely related to the project.
Was the real cost of WACC or nominal for Q1?
So much information was thrown into the questions which have no use just to make it even more complicated.
Time presurre was so high for me. I could not finish it proparly, left few answers half even I knew them. Such a Nightmare.
I was rushing so much now I do not even remember what I did π
All gone anyway, we will find out.
Hope you all and ofcourse me get at least a pass π
December 7, 2012 at 3:08 pm #110694what about 2nd que. regarding purchasing in bulk.i got net benefit of about $8000+ with receipt of discount. of 1%.
December 7, 2012 at 3:09 pm #110695AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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How do you guys remember all that???
December 7, 2012 at 3:10 pm #1106961) I had NPV of about 277,000 if memory serves lol- I included the fixed costs as they directly relate to the project and are not apportioned or allocated.
2) I rejected the new receivables process had a net loss of about 3,500
I accepted the discount on the EOQ question as the holding cost was very cheap3) I had WACC about 9.7% equit 10%, preference 8%, bonds were 5.7% and bank loan was 4.2% I THINK not 100% on that was a big calculation,
4) Bloody toughy hate the business valuations.
Think I just did enough though.
December 7, 2012 at 3:10 pm #110697Hopefully we all get through.
December 7, 2012 at 3:14 pm #110698AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I completely messed up with Q3 and 4, anyone know how to deal with the bond?
Q2a not sure, seems toe easy straight forward (probably wrong again)
couldn’t work out wacc coz dont’ know what to do with the bond, guess figues n put in wacc formula. urgggg so angry with myself!
and debt/equity do you use d/d+e or d/e and give percentage. arrrrrrh could just hang myself to avoid/get rid off my own disappointment in Feb.
in one of the Qs, I couldn’t get growth rate for -> g=br, b=40 x 9%
December 7, 2012 at 3:15 pm #110699they called it fixed cost that was their trick, it is actually investment cost. but they would spent investment at a fixed amount for next 4 years. they deliberatley mentioned fixed to confuse students.
to find ARR those fixed costs should be considered, if i am right.December 7, 2012 at 3:17 pm #110700@vipin70 said:
very easy paper
no calculations on forex, no analysing of finacial statements with ratios, which i hate.all qns were straight forward.
only area i struggled were relative merits of each business valuation methods. (8 marks).
Npv around 550 k
ist qns.2nd
benefit of 14k if we choose cash discounting3rd
WACC 9% including overdraft, i didnt do WACC without overdraft. overdraft was 15 m.
preference share 12%
convertible debt 5.78% approx 6%
equity cost, 10%
overdraft 6%4th
question no complicated calculations.With all respect your answers seem to differ from everyone else’s on here- especially question 1!
December 7, 2012 at 3:19 pm #110701npv is either 220k or 550k , i cant remember it clearly
December 7, 2012 at 3:20 pm #110702cost of preference shares also i forgot
December 7, 2012 at 3:21 pm #110703Haha cool- I just don’t like it when we all have different answers- like I say nothing personal this is for my piece of mind. Seen someone else agree to my WACC and NPV so I will sleep well tonight π
December 7, 2012 at 3:24 pm #110704AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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F9 was quite a demanding paper in terms of time management.
I feel that the paper was manageable esp the calculations but the theory portion was…no commendsQuestion one: Npv was $266, arr was 28% so proposed investment is financially acceptable. I accounted for the fixed cost too. Part c about interest rated and capital investment decision? No clue. Part d was on factors to formulate AR policy.
Question two: AR policy was net cost. Inventory was net benefit. Optimum cash was in miller Orr model.
Question three: wacc was 9% I din include overdraft, must we? Benefit of offering convertible debt to taking up bank loan, I touched on flexibility and redemption. It was from the company point of view. The last part on interest rate hedging, I mentioned smoothing and fra.
Question four: biz valuations, I got a little confused on
Code:thebr model. It’s the proportion of retained earnings right? I took the (pat minus div ) divide by pat to get the proportion and multipled that with the ke value given in ther question.to get the growth rate. Then I applied it into the normal dvm equation. Hope I’m right. Merits of the valuation mtd, I wrote abt the techniques used, their pros and cons, whatever I cld rmb fr today morning’s last minute revising. Cost of debt, was irr mtd. Debt to equity ratio decreased to 13% so the company’s gearing improved ie financial risk is lower.
Whatever I cld recall…
Hope to pass this paper, can’t wait for my P-papers next sem π ALL THE BEST GUYS πDecember 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm #110705got 9.7% for wacc… i fink i messed up in the 1st question koz i included fixed cost and took the discount rate of 9%
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