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*** F8 December 2014 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA AA Audit and Assurance Forums › *** F8 December 2014 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

  • This topic has 308 replies, 78 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by Sam123456789.
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  • December 5, 2014 at 9:06 pm #218710
    Jay
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    Who exactly wrote these suggested answers?? full of errors, so why even bother posting it?

    December 5, 2014 at 9:08 pm #218712
    Sam123456789
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    haha

    opentuituion

    the website which we use to revise :))

    December 5, 2014 at 9:10 pm #218714
    xlnc123
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    @stephen787 said:
    Who exactly wrote these suggested answers?? full of errors, so why even bother posting it?

    There appears to be a deficiency in the answers provided by open tuition. Describe a recommendation (2 marks)

    December 5, 2014 at 9:13 pm #218716
    Sam123456789
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    wheres the deficiency??

    which question/s?

    December 5, 2014 at 9:14 pm #218717
    xlnc123
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    @usamaniaz said:
    wheres the deficiency??

    which question/s?

    12 should be D

    But it’s listed as B

    December 5, 2014 at 9:16 pm #218718
    Sam123456789
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    Yes!

    I asked in the question to Gromit, and this is what he said

    “For Q12, statement (2), if the going concern assumption is inappropriate, the FS contain material misstatements so should modify the opinion. I was originally wondering if ACCA was being strict or sloppy with ‘qualify’ ie using qualify to mean any modified opinion. If so, probably (2) is correct. It could be a bit of a trick, however, depending on how accurately the examiner uses the term ‘qualify’. Perhaps they want you to conclude that an adverse opinion is needed, in which case the answer is D.

    It also depends on how the FS are drawn up and the question doesn’t say that they have been drawn up on the going concern basis. It only says that the FS should not be on a going concern basis. If they are actually drawn up on a break-up basis, then no modification of the opinion is needed so B is right again.

    I think it’s a rather ambiguous question.”

    December 5, 2014 at 9:23 pm #218720
    Raninda
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    Guys help me out here please

    So all the answers are correct accept 12 in the opentuition answer sheet for part A?

    December 5, 2014 at 9:34 pm #218721
    Jay
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    @raniya46 said:
    Guys help me out here please

    So all the answers are correct accept 12 in the opentuition answer sheet for part A?

    I have doubts on the answers given for question 3, 9 and 12

    December 5, 2014 at 9:41 pm #218722
    Sam123456789
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    I have doubts about 3 as well.

    Q9 I can’t even remember what I ticked.

    Q12 I’m with yiu on this. Coz what gromit is saying is fine. But I’m not content.

    December 5, 2014 at 9:46 pm #218723
    xlnc123
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    3 is definitely right.

    A B and D are suitable form
    Of evidence.

    C there are better ways to confirm loss of data from payroll. E.g review bank statement to confirm what went out from payroll.

    Do a monthy on month analysis to understand any significant changes.

    Any new joiners or leavers, you can do a proof in total calc to confirm the balances are reasonable.

    December 5, 2014 at 10:24 pm #218734
    Sean
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    @usamaniaz said:
    I have doubts about 3 as well.

    Q9 I can’t even remember what I ticked.

    Q12 I’m with yiu on this. Coz what gromit is saying is fine. But I’m not content.

    I wouldn’t worry too much about Q12. ACCA get feedback from the tuition providers after the exams and if others feel the question has been worded ambiguously as Gromit said then ACCA may give credit for both responses (B and D).

    December 5, 2014 at 10:38 pm #218739
    Sam123456789
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    Yeah fair point I suppose.

    December 5, 2014 at 10:56 pm #218741
    abbas7796
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    which other mcq u lost mark at? apart from 3. also can u if possible confirm that the subsequent event question in q4 was adjusting event where auditors were suppoose to perform following procedures as asked in part 2:

    review post year cash receipts to see any payments from the customers.

    enquire management why they dont want to make a write off this year. enquire about thier rationale.

    review and confirm correspondences from customer that he is unlikely to pay

    is that sounds right?

    December 5, 2014 at 11:01 pm #218742
    Sam123456789
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    Yup it was an adjusting event
    the matter was material

    Yup review with customer
    Enquire of director for his rationale
    Inspect board minutes
    Written rep for no payment

    I think k that’s about it

    December 5, 2014 at 11:03 pm #218743
    Sam123456789
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    I think k the only mcqs which I have problem with are 3 and 12

    Q12 D I think we agreed

    Q3 is D.. that’s about it the test I got right well apart from the disadvantage of questionnaires coz I can’t remember what I ticked

    December 6, 2014 at 3:38 am #218761
    gloriakuan
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    Hi, what is the right answer ?

    6 Which of the following procedures are TESTS OF CONTROL an auditor should perform in testing the inventory
    cycle of their client whilst attending the inventory count?
    (1) Observe whether the client’s staff are following the inventory count instructions
    (2) Review inventory present in the warehouse for evidence of damage or obsolescence
    (3) Obtain a sample of the last goods received notes and goods despatched notes and follow through to ensure
    inclusion in the correct accounting period
    (4) Inspect and review management’s inventory count instructions

    A 2 and 3
    B 1 and 4
    C 1 and 2
    D 3 and 4

    10 Which of the following statements, if any, is/are correct?
    (1) Internal auditors should report to the finance director as they understand internal controls and are best placed to
    implement any recommendations in a timely manner
    (2) Companies are not required to establish and maintain an internal audit function
    A 1 only
    B 2 only
    C Both 1 and 2
    D Neither 1 no 2

    Thank you^v^

    December 6, 2014 at 3:45 am #218762
    gloriakuan
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    I cried and want to die as I forgot the new policy is 6 questions instead of 5 questions and I ignore the last question in the back page of the question book.

    December 6, 2014 at 6:25 am #218765
    Anonymous
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    10 Which of the following statements, if any, is/are correct?
    (1) Internal auditors should report to the finance director as they understand internal controls and are best placed to
    implement any recommendations in a timely manner
    (2) Companies are not required to establish and maintain an internal audit function
    A 1 only
    B 2 only
    C Both 1 and 2
    D Neither 1 nor 2

    Why the answer is B as per the opentuition answers and not D, because according to my understanding the answer should be D.

    December 6, 2014 at 7:37 am #218773
    Sam123456789
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    Companies are not required to maintain and establish internal audit.

    It is better tot have it if you have got audit committee so they can work with them but it’s not a requirement

    December 6, 2014 at 8:57 am #218788
    abbas7796
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    how did you approach the substantive procedures on revaluation?

    i put points like:

    inspect the revaluation report and agree the amount in the report by the valuer to the ledger and FS

    recalculate depreciation based on new carrying value

    review disclosure and ensure its adequate

    ensure that all assets in the same
    class have been revalued

    are these points valid for substantive procedures?

    and what about WIP? the procedure i wrote for WIP was to recalculate WIP using payroll records for labour costs. does that sounds ok?

    December 6, 2014 at 9:41 am #218798
    rushzer
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    Do you agree to Opentuition MCQ answers as under;

    ACCA
    F8 December 2014

    1. B
    2. D
    3. C [Isn’t it D?]
    4. C
    5. C
    6. B
    7. A
    8. D
    9. A [Isn’t it B?]
    10. B [Isn’t it D?]
    11. B
    12. B [Isn’t it D?]

    December 6, 2014 at 9:47 am #218801
    rushzer
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    Hi,

    have you got the final answers to MCQ and do you agree totally to the opentuition answer?

    December 6, 2014 at 10:11 am #218806
    xlnc123
    Member
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    @abbas7796 said:
    how did you approach the substantive procedures on revaluation?

    i put points like:

    inspect the revaluation report and agree the amount in the report by the valuer to the ledger and FS

    recalculate depreciation based on new carrying value

    review disclosure and ensure its adequate

    ensure that all assets in the same
    class have been revalued

    are these points valid for substantive procedures?

    and what about WIP? the procedure i wrote for WIP was to recalculate WIP using payroll records for labour costs. does that sounds ok?

    WIP
    Evaluate and recalculate their measurement of WIP % completion (I think it was based on total cost incurred or something) and assess with other clients

    Break down of WIP and recalculate

    Break down of overheads allocated and assess the reasonableness of assumptions

    Agree raw marerials per unit back to purchase invoice to confirm accuracy of prices in the WIP calc

    Etc

    December 6, 2014 at 10:18 am #218809
    krishna3898
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    yes, its correct!!

    December 6, 2014 at 10:32 am #218819
    abbas7796
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    thanks. what about revaluation? do you think the points i made were good enough for substantive procedures?

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