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- December 6, 2013 at 5:03 am #150927AnonymousInactive
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I left the exam hall thinking it was OK, but the more I reconsider my answer the more doubts I have. Here is what I remember
Q1. Very simple
a) definition and elements of audit risk – 5 marks
b) Identify, explain and define respond for Audit – 12 marks
c) state substantive procedures for 3 cases: PPE modernization, valuation of inventory and … don’t remember – all 9 marksQ2.
a) Define control test and substantive procedure and give examples of each in regards to wages
b) … maybe something about how to asses quality of collected evidenceQ3. Internal control –
a) not sure, they ask to list advantages and disadvantages of 2 types of ordering and despatch system – 6 marks.
I have skipped this one, but I think it was asked to write about telephone and e-mail ordering system …
b) identify deficiencies in sales and dispatch systemQ4. Ethics
b) Ethical issues. Here the wording of the question was a bit unclear. It did not ask for ethical threats, also not for the principles of ethics, but for ‘ethical risks’. I think the correct approach is to write about 5 threats – 10 marks
c) Evaluation of independent expert – factorsQ5) Audit report
a) steps to be taken before accepting appointment and pre conditions – 5 marks
b) correction of errors in Audit Report – 12 marks
c) opening balances – e.g. of substantive procedures and the influence on auditor opinion if no evidence.I am sure something may be mixed up above, and something missing.
Good luck to everyone here !!!
December 6, 2013 at 5:10 am #150928AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I am wondering what is the approach of the marker if he gets an answer with listed e.g.. 8 risks when asked for 6.
Anybody knows?
What in case i one of them is wrong. Does he mark all correct answers up to maximum of 6, or he just takes first 6 and does not look at the next ones?December 6, 2013 at 5:33 am #150929AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q4. I only managed to spot 2 ethical threat, which are self review threat- free accounting service for new audit client , and self interest threat – for percentage of client’s profit.
Can anyone tell me what is the ethical threat associated with, auditors promising client that their audit will only take 2 weeks ?
In order to save cost, auditor didn’t bother to contact previous auditors upon accepting new audit client?December 6, 2013 at 5:33 am #150930I agree q5 last part was a joke I started laughing when reading, about the ethical risks I used the threats of auditors as well…like self review, intimidation of fees,self interest cause they wanna base the fee on profit after tax figure…
Good luck to all of us is a horrible and strange paper…global passing rate is very low.
December 6, 2013 at 5:37 am #150931@alatu they will pick your first 6 and ignore the rest, even if your next are better and u made a mistake in the first 6, they don’t mark beyond 6 th point 🙁
Best of luck to all of us to pass
December 6, 2013 at 5:53 am #150932Well i tried my best but remembered a friend who said this paper you talk when the result is back.
December 6, 2013 at 5:55 am #150933can’t believe everyone is saying the questions weren’t tough…………the requirements seemed easy at first but then linking them with the scenerio was a challenge……and it was so time consuming……..i couldn’t attempt all………has anyone passed f8 even when they left few marks? i think i did well with the ones that i did attempt ……fingers crossed….
December 6, 2013 at 5:58 am #150934At least there was no ethic questions or we are talking about another exams?
December 6, 2013 at 6:08 am #150936AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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are those 2 methods of documenting is about narrative and flowchart?
December 6, 2013 at 6:33 am #150937It was very easy. Sadly, I only could attempt 70-75% of the paper 🙁 and the main reason for that is the invigilator wasted 20 mins of my time and also, the reading and planning time, and also additional 10 mins writing names on every sheet and filling the bubbles 🙁 I’m going to report that to ACCA today.
December 6, 2013 at 6:57 am #150942Two weeks audit work is an unreasonable time that might lead to some material misstatement not been detected. Audit fee based on tax savings should be an intimidation threat. Audit fee should not be based on contingencies but on actual work and time spent. Cost reduction is self interest threat. Generally the exam was fair. By God’s Grace I shall pass.
December 6, 2013 at 7:10 am #150944Qs 3 was ethics.
December 6, 2013 at 8:30 am #150952This is a professional platform, vogal utterances is not permitted.
December 6, 2013 at 8:33 am #150953This is a professional platform vogal utterances are not permitted.
December 6, 2013 at 9:35 am #151008Please behave in such way as to “bring credit” to our future profession. You really didn’t have to use the last word which i erased.
December 6, 2013 at 9:56 am #151010AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Dear Opentution Team,
please make correction to the article on ratios.
it says Gearing = debt/equity
it should be =debt/(debt+Equity)
thank youDecember 6, 2013 at 10:08 am #151014@Henahailu2
Both ratios are correct. It depends on the approach the examiner wants you to do. Is this in relation to F8 Dec 2013? Or perhaps F9?
December 6, 2013 at 10:41 am #151030AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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F8
Thank You for your reply.December 6, 2013 at 11:55 am #151042kamilapro and
icedawn i think it was narrative notes and icq …..???
the paper was well , but marking depends on examiner :/December 6, 2013 at 2:31 pm #151082AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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was thinking… narrative and flowchart, or flowchart and icq? i went with the latter as i forgot the stuff abt narrative notes….
ethics was tricky, since it included integrity and objectivity risks it was linked to threats to independence too…. or so i assumed. was i an idiot?December 6, 2013 at 3:22 pm #151105Hi,
Can anyone confirm whether the following were relevant for Q2(c), about the overall review of FS:
– Analytical procedures (I’m sure of this)
– Written procedures
– Subsequent eventsI think I confused overall review of FS with overall review of audit.
December 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm #151118Credit extention, used of new system, removal of provision, auditor is new to the company risk of detection, stock understated as order on phone are checked manually after ordering by phone,
December 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm #151119Most of what is contained in the lectures and notes made the exams appear very familiar. I hope it results to passing
December 6, 2013 at 5:04 pm #151137For question on review i belive the answer was, hot, cold and peer review.
December 6, 2013 at 5:55 pm #151227will we see any answers to the questions soon official or unofficial here or somewhere else?good luck everybody
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