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F7 workings for Numerical Questions

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FR Exams › F7 workings for Numerical Questions

  • This topic has 10 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • March 25, 2014 at 12:02 pm #163003
    abbas7796
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    Hi guys

    I have a quick question. I understand that even if we dont exactly get the right answer for a particular adjustment in QUESTION 2, we might or will still get the marks based on our workings. am i correct on this?

    is there any prescribe format to show workings for f7 or any format will be acceptable as long as it makes sense?

    Please advise

    March 25, 2014 at 1:05 pm #163011
    pannanikt
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    you will get mark even if you made a mistake say in calc. But you must put right adjustments in right workings. The workings format is in open tuition notes, kaplan and bpp. Sometimes they may slightly differ but the sense is the same. I would strongly recommend to remember workings as they are tought and stick to it. It gives you the logical structure for your answer and it should be automatic process – no thinking ”’aaaa what am I supposed to do now”. There is no time for this at the exam. Of course hardly anybody is able to square balance sheet ot cash flow. Don’t worry this does not matter so much. Your logical and technical approach matters. If you don’t know what to do with something – make assumption and move on or ignore. You will lose mark or two but more important is to finish paper. To attend all parts of all questions. To pass you need to do 75% of the paper and of this what you have done 75% must be right – easy!;-) (75% x 75%= 56.25%)

    March 25, 2014 at 6:33 pm #163040
    MikeLittle
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    I disagree with Pannanikt at the end of his post.

    To aim to do only 75% of the paper is the road to disaster.

    Aim to do 100% and get 100 % correct but be satisfied with 75% correct.

    That way you’ll have a substantially greater chance of success

    March 27, 2014 at 11:15 pm #163411
    pavithra
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    My advice is to have one page for just the proforma

    eg: Statement of Profit and Loss and Comprehensive Income for year ended 31 MArch 2013
    Revenue
    Cost of Sale
    Gross Profit
    Administration Expenses
    Profit Before Interest and Tax
    Interest paid
    Profit Before Tax
    Tax (Working 1)
    Net Profit for the year
    You get 0.5 marks for just writing this in its prescribed order. If there are any workings to do for the calculation of cost of sale, taxation, admininstration expenses and other expenses you do them on a second page. You should avoid writing anything like (tax = 20% of profit )on the face on the income statement, just write Working 1 as shown above. So please leave the first page just for the proforma. Similarly for balance sheet and cash flow statement.
    This will make the difference between the dreaded 49 and 50%.
    Good Luck

    March 28, 2014 at 7:54 am #163430
    MikeLittle
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    There are NO marks for proformas! Start with your workings and complete them. Then, if you still have time (!) start to put the figures into an income statement (or balance sheet as appropriate)

    That / those extra workings that you complete will be worth rather more than the half mark taken by writing out a proforma statement and could make the difference between that dreaded 49% and 51% or 52%

    Do NOT waste that valuable time with proformas! Half a mark is only 54 seconds worth of time allocation and you will certainly be spending more than 54 seconds in writing one out

    Pavithra, this was a post addressed to “ask the tutor”. Had it been a general forum post, I would have not been concerned even though I believe that your advice is ill-founded.

    Please do continue to contribute your thoughts to the site, but restrict them to general forum queries

    Many thanks

    June 11, 2014 at 5:47 pm #175972
    7122517f
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    so what if,if a student just calculate amortisation of an intangible assets and showed it in his workings and put in COGS indeliberately whereas in question its clearly stated that amortisation will be charge on administration cost…. so could you explain the marking procedure here cause it would be helpful for me to check mock exam copies thanks

    June 12, 2014 at 7:31 am #176094
    MikeLittle
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    If there’s only 1 mark for the correct amortisation treatment, it could be a half mark for the calculation and a half for including it within admin.

    If there’s 2 marks, then 1 for the calculation and 1 for including within admin

    June 12, 2014 at 6:55 pm #176302
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    same concern for pup if a student gets the wrong answer (showed in workings) and enters in cogs he will get the half mark if it contain 1 mark… right????

    June 13, 2014 at 6:13 am #176335
    MikeLittle
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    Correct – how many times can you be punished for making just one mistake?

    July 2, 2015 at 5:54 pm #259354
    dewan
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    Hi sir do weed need to add up the income statement or balance sheet figures.or we just need to put the figures from the workings to the income statements or balance sheet.thank you.

    July 2, 2015 at 6:00 pm #259356
    MikeLittle
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    You’re unlikely to have time enough for the luxury of adding up.

    Some tutors advocate NOT adding up! What do you prove by adding up? The fact that you can operate a calculator? And even if your balance sheet balances …. it proves nothing!

    Personally, I WOULD add up but only because I’m a compulsive adder! I add up the stairs when I go up or down a staircase – yes, ok, I’m a bit extreme, but I just add things up – like the numbers on a car registration plate

    But, for you? Well, it’s entirely your choice – it’s NOT going to get you any extra marks but it will possibly point you in the direction of any SINGLE mistake that you may have made

    Ok?

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