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- September 10, 2015 at 10:55 am #271003
I agree with you all, F5 paper focused on cringe topics would you agree?
10 marks on TVM (3 E’s) like not being funny but this was not covered with college provider. Section A and B were alot trickier than past sitting and specimen paper.
Definitely think I be retaking in December which is not ideal.
If anyone sat the exam at Tottenham Hotspurs why were students allowed to eat chocolates during the exam, it strictly said NO FOOD IN EXAM HALL !!
Good luck to everyone.
September 10, 2015 at 11:31 am #271008@hsn007 said:
I agree with you all, F5 paper focused on cringe topics would you agree?10 marks on TVM (3 E’s) like not being funny but this was not covered with college provider. Section A and B were alot trickier than past sitting and specimen paper.
Definitely think I be retaking in December which is not ideal.
If anyone sat the exam at Tottenham Hotspurs why were students allowed to eat chocolates during the exam, it strictly said NO FOOD IN EXAM HALL !!
Good luck to everyone.
Chocolate? Are you sure? It’s unprofessional!
September 10, 2015 at 11:39 am #271010@yuemin said:
Can you remember what’s your contribution?Hi,
This question was terrible. It made no sense to me but my contribution was £3.20 or £3.40 I can quite remember anymore but I had picked 600!
September 10, 2015 at 11:44 am #271011Looks like pass rates for ACCA are falling because ACCA are experimenting too much and making exams harder to pass, perhaps they need more retake fees. No wonder a lot more people are choosing CIMA now in UK. At my work place CIMA/ACCA split is like 75/25, and this is surprising because I work in a bank in London. We regularly get CIMA reps coming in giving presentations and nearly all new starters at my work are choosing CIMA.
September 10, 2015 at 12:01 pm #271014AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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can anyone tell exactly which topics were tested in the paper? plz tell me….
September 10, 2015 at 12:03 pm #271016Target costing, sales variances, value for money, cvp, risk n uncertainty …. Forgot others
September 10, 2015 at 12:09 pm #271018@umerr786 said:
Looks like pass rates for ACCA are falling because ACCA are experimenting too much and making exams harder to pass, perhaps they need more retake fees. No wonder a lot more people are choosing CIMA now in UK. At my work place CIMA/ACCA split is like 75/25, and this is surprising because I work in a bank in London. We regularly get CIMA reps coming in giving presentations and nearly all new starters at my work are choosing CIMA.And more for ICAEW.
September 10, 2015 at 12:28 pm #271021AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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were you guys provided with graph sheets. In Ghana there were no graph sheets.
September 10, 2015 at 12:31 pm #271022@johnmoffat said:
The ACCA announced after the June exams that they will no longer be publishing either the exam questions or the answers. Without the questions we cannot provide suggested answers.Sadly I wrote me all answers as flowing l think like last December after exam session finished opentuition was published the all suggested answers.
These my answers :-
1-C 6-A 11-B 16-B
2-D 7- A 12-A 17-B
3-A 8-B 13-B 18-A
4-C 9- D 14-C 19-C
5-D 10-C 15-D 20- B
I do not where can I checked that.
anyway thank you indeed John for your respond.September 10, 2015 at 12:52 pm #271024AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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thanks a lot…lisaiita
September 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm #271026You are welcome
September 10, 2015 at 1:03 pm #271029For the variances question, what sort of answers did we have for part b? The performance of the company and sales manager?
I completely rushed this as I ran out of time.
My answer included planning being somewhat uncontrollable, operational being controllable.
I related it to part a) but my part a answers were wrong :(. Think I lost a lot of marks here.
September 10, 2015 at 1:17 pm #271031@jimbob1212 said:
For the variances question, what sort of answers did we have for part b? The performance of the company and sales manager?I completely rushed this as I ran out of time.
My answer included planning being somewhat uncontrollable, operational being controllable.
I related it to part a) but my part a answers were wrong :(. Think I lost a lot of marks here.
I did a bit of basic maths percentages and concluded that the sales manager had done a very good job and the company as a whole was quite good. Very woolly.
September 10, 2015 at 1:32 pm #271034Hi All,
I believe exam was a hard one and definitely examiner had a slightly different approach comparing to previous exams. MCQ- I was not sure about 5 questions including advantages of direct vs indirect input? Some mcq there really hard and took long time to get the answer.
MCQ
1-Got £1.02 ABC 0.12+direct cost of 0.90
-Relevant cost got £40 but should be £110 it’s in OT mcq chapter9 q5
-For the goods received notes question : Format check & sequence check
-For the level of information question : Both operational(Tactical should be long term over 5years)
-For motivation picked 2
-Accept both RI and ROI RI= profit 10K less 7.5 cost of investment=accept, ROI= was giving something like 13.3%
-For joint processing question: reject the first and reject the second
-which is MOST LIKELY” to be affected- Government
-On the selling price I got $20. 35-0,01(1500). Not so sure ever.Part B:
Q1 Target Costing
A-Steps
B-Advantages and Disadvantages for cleaning company if adopted TCQ2 Minimax regretion/Expected Value/Use of Probabilities
A)
Contribution per unit sold : $5.20 – $1.80 = $3.40
Construct payoff table for each possible daily demand and each possible daily supplyDemand- 500,550,600,650
Supplly
500
550
600
650For example :
If supply is 500 and demand is 500 : contribution = (5.20 – 1.80) x 500 = $1,700
This amount is the same for demands of 550, 600, 650
Not sure but when supply is 600 and demand 500: 600*(5.20-1.80) less 100*1.80B) Explanation of EV and adoption of probabilities by flower company
Q3
A- Overall satisfaction of bus company – no idea
B- Comments on directors view- made few points e.g. not enough info, just made up staff
C- Definition of Efficiency and effectiveness followed by one exampleQ4
A- Weighted average contribution to sales ratio. Got 0.6092 or 60.92% I did exclude % of fixed labour when calculated contribution
B- Margin of safety in $
C- Draw a chart with not paper provided 🙂
D- Can’t remember Breakeven point?Q5
A) Sales variances- redraft
Used two formulas
Sales Volume Variance (ASale – BSale)SProfit/unit
Sales Price Variance (APrice – SPrice)ASalesB) Assess companies and directors performance taking in to account what in country price decreased by 2% but market share increased by 5% and director has heavily invested in advertising.
I do not expect to pass F5 this time. ACCA is designed to be difficult and you should expect to be tested not only in the scenarios from revision kits but overall understanding of performance management, no blame to ACCA at all. This is why it’s well respected qualification.
September 10, 2015 at 1:38 pm #271036@siknagudruole said:
Hi All,I believe exam was a hard one and definitely examiner had a slightly different approach comparing to previous exams. MCQ- I was not sure about 5 questions including advantages of direct vs indirect input? Some mcq there really hard and took long time to get the answer.
MCQ
1-Got £1.02 ABC 0.12+direct cost of 0.90
-Relevant cost got £40 but should be £110 it’s in OT mcq chapter9 q5
-For the goods received notes question : Format check & sequence check
-For the level of information question : Both operational(Tactical should be long term over 5years)
-For motivation picked 2
-Accept both RI and ROI RI= profit 10K less 7.5 cost of investment=accept, ROI= was giving something like 13.3%
-For joint processing question: reject the first and reject the second
-which is MOST LIKELY” to be affected- Government
-On the selling price I got $20. 35-0,01(1500). Not so sure ever.Part B:
Q1 Target Costing
A-Steps
B-Advantages and Disadvantages for cleaning company if adopted TCQ2 Minimax regretion/Expected Value/Use of Probabilities
A)
Contribution per unit sold : $5.20 – $1.80 = $3.40
Construct payoff table for each possible daily demand and each possible daily supplyDemand- 500,550,600,650
Supplly
500
550
600
650For example :
If supply is 500 and demand is 500 : contribution = (5.20 – 1.80) x 500 = $1,700
This amount is the same for demands of 550, 600, 650
Not sure but when supply is 600 and demand 500: 600*(5.20-1.80) less 100*1.80B) Explanation of EV and adoption of probabilities by flower company
Q3
A- Overall satisfaction of bus company – no idea
B- Comments on directors view- made few points e.g. not enough info, just made up staff
C- Definition of Efficiency and effectiveness followed by one exampleQ4
A- Weighted average contribution to sales ratio. Got 0.6092 or 60.92% I did exclude % of fixed labour when calculated contribution
B- Margin of safety in $
C- Draw a chart with not paper provided 🙂
D- Can’t remember Breakeven point?Q5
A) Sales variances- redraft
Used two formulas
Sales Volume Variance (ASale – BSale)SProfit/unit
Sales Price Variance (APrice – SPrice)ASalesB) Assess companies and directors performance taking in to account what in country price decreased by 2% but market share increased by 5% and director has heavily invested in advertising.
I do not expect to pass F5 this time. ACCA is designed to be difficult and you should expect to be tested not only in the scenarios from revision kits but overall understanding of performance management, no blame to ACCA at all. This is why it’s well respected qualification.
awesome response, jogged my memory quite a bit.
For MCQ I think I disagree with you on quite a few aspects.
The ROI question meant that the ROI of the investment was LESS than the ROI of the division, therefore REJECT ROI, ACCEPT RI
The tactical decision was regarding future budgeting, Tactical is regarding anything for future which provides support to senior management.
September 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm #271038Does anyone actually believe that this exam tested key core fundamentals. There was a lot left off that is key to management accounting.
The section B questions were not very clear or easy to understand. The examiner done a very poor job in dressing scenarios, and the communication was poor.
September 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm #271041Also for the $40 relavant costing, that’s a lot different to the question we had in the exam.
I can’t remember exactly the question but it mentioned that acquiring labour for the project immediately was unavailable because they had to strike, so we had to use our current labour.
Therefore using the current labour means we lose out a contribution of 10 hrs x $4 ($40), but we do not worry about their current wages because that is not a relavant cost.
September 10, 2015 at 2:01 pm #271044jimbob1212 agree with you regaring tactical decition and ROI 12000/60000=0.2 and 13000/67500=0.19
Not sure about $40
Same scenario from OT notes:
A company needs 5,000 hours of labour for a contract they have been asked to quote for.
The work currently being carried out by our employees is generating a contribution of $12 per hour,
and using them on the contract will mean taking them away from their other work,
Our workers are paid at the rate of $8 per hour.Answer:
5,000 hours x (12 + 8) = $100,000I thought the same just contribution as labour cost is irrelavent , but above question does include $8 p/h
September 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm #271069I had $110 as relevant cost, but it just seems wrong and didn’t cross my mind during exam that labour was in employment anyway so they would be paid regardless, so the only relevant cost should be the lost contribution which is $40
September 10, 2015 at 4:00 pm #271081@umerr786 said:
I had $110 as relevant cost, but it just seems wrong and didn’t cross my mind during exam that labour was in employment anyway so they would be paid regardless, so the only relevant cost should be the lost contribution which is $40Agreed, although it’s more annoying that we will never find out the answer..
For question 4, I did the optimal mix, would I be penalized for this? I worked out the contribution per unit for each product, then ranked them, then I worked out the cumulative revenue/ contribution.
I still drew the constant mix line as it is from the fixed cost up to the cumulative revenue, so I assume I still get marks?Need to get an idea so I know what to study for in December.. 🙁
September 10, 2015 at 4:02 pm #271083AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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hello guys is cvp chart same as break even? i drew a cvp chart with cummulative revenue as X axis and cummulative profit at Y axis. was i right?
September 10, 2015 at 4:54 pm #271104I thought they were asking to draw break even chart?
September 10, 2015 at 6:05 pm #271116This my third attempted I think fail also what I should do just leave F5 and I should try other papers like F7 or F8 or I should try F5 fourth time I’m really frustrated. last Lune I passed F6 by 73 scores in June 2015 but I was fail in F5 by 40 in December 2014 .
September 10, 2015 at 9:27 pm #271141Examiner was asking for breakeven chart this is where the total revenue line cross the total cost line, for multiple products you must cumulate units, costs and revenue and then draw lines, this is normal chart not cvp.
the next subquestion was what would happen if the products were sold starting from the most profitable first, when you draw cvp you start from the most profitable one so they wouldn`t ask for this if you had to draw cvp chart.
September 10, 2015 at 9:35 pm #271142110$ in relevant cost is the right answer and end of story.
They were saying that workforce is working in full capacity so relevant cost in this case must include variable labour hour cost plus any associated variable overheads (weren`t mentioned so 0) and any contribution forgone.
If workforce was not working in full capacity than the labour cost wouldn`t be relevant if they are paid anyway.
All other information about strike were just distracting from getting the right answer.
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