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diluted EPS

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  • June 18, 2015 at 12:45 pm #257693
    josy87
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    Hello sir
    Please I need help with this question

    on 1 October 2013, hoy had 2.5 million equity shares of 50 cents each.
    no new shares were issued during the year ended 30 Sept 2014, but on that date there were oustanding share option of 2 million equity shares at $1.2 each. The average market value of hoy’s equity shares during the year was $3 per share.
    profit after tax for the year was 1550 000

    calcul of EPS

    June 18, 2015 at 1:34 pm #257719
    MikeLittle
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    Your post asks for EPS. The answer to your question is therefore $1,550,000 / 2,500,000 = EPS of $0.62

    If your question had been calculate DEPS the answer to that would be $0.42

    What does the answer say?

    June 18, 2015 at 3:30 pm #257747
    josy87
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    the question is diluted eps. the answer is 25. i dont understand how they got that.
    please I alsol dont understand how you got 0.62 and 0.42
    thanks

    June 18, 2015 at 5:07 pm #257769
    MikeLittle
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    Let me ask you another question before I go further! You have written in your original post “on 1 October 2013, hoy had 2.5 million equity shares of 50 cents each.”

    Now, is that exactly what the question says or does it say $2.5 million equity shares of 50 cents each?

    The difference is the $ sign

    June 18, 2015 at 5:26 pm #257777
    josy87
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    2.5 million. sorry

    June 18, 2015 at 5:55 pm #257788
    MikeLittle
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    Now I’m confused! Are you really sure that it says 2.5 million without the $ sign?

    June 18, 2015 at 8:31 pm #257821
    josy87
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    with the $ sign Sir

    June 19, 2015 at 9:29 am #258010
    MikeLittle
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    That makes a HUGE difference!

    With $2.5 million 50 cent equity shares in issue, that means that there are 5 million shares of 50 cents each giving us the $ value of $2.5 million

    With reference to the options, 2 million options, when taken up, will bring into the company $2.4 million

    If the company had wished to raise $2.4 million during the year, they could have issued 800,000 shares at mid-market price of $3

    That means that 2,000,000 @ $1.20 is the equivalent of 800,000 @ $3 + 1,200,000 free

    And it’s those free shares that create the dilution because shares issued at full market price in theory have no affect on the earning capacity of the shares already in issue

    So, taking account of the new 1,200,000 free shares, there are now the original 5 million plus these option shares = a total of 6,200,000 as the denominator for the DEPS calculation

    $1,550,000 earnings divided by 6,200,000 shares = 25 cents per share DEPS

    OK?

    And PLEASE be careful and make sure that you give full, correct information next time 🙂

    January 27, 2021 at 10:54 pm #608282
    Smoochiez
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    How did you get the 2.4 million? What’s the working?

    January 29, 2021 at 8:00 pm #608511
    P2-D2
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    The $2.4 million is being used to illustrate the point and has been chosen randomly. There is no working.

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