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Consolidation issue

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA SBR Exams › Consolidation issue

  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • September 19, 2014 at 9:47 am #195492
    perist1984
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    Dear Mike

    If person A owns all the shares in entity B and all the shares in entity C, is there need for consolidation? Supposedly there is need for consolidation, who is parent entity for consolidation purposes?

    September 19, 2014 at 9:54 am #195495
    MikeLittle
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    Of course there’s a need for consolidation! The shareholders of company A want to know how their company and its two subsidiaries are performing!

    A different question would be if company A owned all the shares in company B and company B owned 60% of the shares of company C, is it necessary for company B to prepare consolidated accounts.

    The answer to that is “No” there is no need for a parent company (B) to prepare consolidated figures where the parent (B) is itself a wholly owned subsidiary of another (A)

    Does that help?

    September 19, 2014 at 9:59 am #195498
    perist1984
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    Mike,

    There is no company A, there are only companies B and C. Physical person A is owner of those companies.

    September 19, 2014 at 10:05 am #195501
    MikeLittle
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    Whoa Mike!!!! Read the full question (RTFQ)

    Sorry Perist

    OK, we have an individual that wholly owns two companies. Is there a need for consolidation? NO!

    You can today establish two companies where you are the only shareholder. Are you going to consolidate?

    And our shareholder is only a parent if he / she has children 🙂

    Better?

    September 19, 2014 at 11:38 am #195515
    perist1984
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    Mike,

    Little better but still not absolutely clear.
    If the situation were different and there is in fact company A that controls companies B and C then situation is clear and company A is parent and consolidation is needed. But if companies B and C are controled by individual A than there is no need for consolidation, isn’t this potential source of manipulation?

    regards

    September 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm #195532
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, it is! But that’s why we have the IAS on Related Parties. Where two companies are under common control, those two companies are related parties and full disclosure of all transactions between the two and the owner must be disclosed

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