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Ch 2 Revaluation loss recognition.

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  • This topic has 10 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 1 year ago by P2-D2.
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  • June 30, 2021 at 7:47 pm #626736
    7fsa
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    Dear Chris,

    How are you?
    I hope you are safe and well,
    First of all I would like to thank you for your appreciated effort and informative replies,
    In case of the impairment loss due to the revaluation as the example you presented in your nice lecture as per my understanding in case of impairment loss due to revaluation decrease we have to credit the accumulated depreciation and debit the impairment loss and as per the standard we have to deduct the amount in the revaluation reserve and the balancing amount should go directly to Profit or loss statement.
    My question is the following entry is correct to get recognize the impairment loss due to the revaluation decrease.
    Dr impairment loss (SPL)Balancing figure $550
    Dr revaluation Surplus (SFP) $3850
    Cr Accumulated depreciation (SFP) $4250
    What you did in your informative lecture is the following,
    Dr Impairment loss SPL (balancing figure) $550
    Dr Impairment loss (OCI) $3850
    Cr Accumulated depreciation $4250
    in case of my journal entry is wrong
    First, shall i create two different accounts for the impairment in my chart of accounts?
    I mean one for the income statement and the other for the other comprehensive income.

    Thank you in advance.

    July 14, 2021 at 8:59 pm #627775
    P2-D2
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    Sorry! I must have missed this post, apologies. What you have done is fine with the entry, as you are taking some of the loss through the revaluation surplus and the rest through profit or loss. I’m just trying to highlight the impairment loss itself and where it is being split between OCI and P or L.

    Glad you are appreciating the responses, keep up the excellent work and you’ll do very well in the exam.

    Thanks

    July 15, 2021 at 2:25 pm #627851
    sunil808
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    Revaluation losses are recognised in the income statement. The only exception to this rule is where a revaluation surplus exists relating to a previous revaluation of that asset. To that extent, a revaluation loss can be recognised in equity.

    July 27, 2021 at 3:02 am #629524
    7fsa
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    You said sir, that my entry is fine, which is mentioned above.
    So what is going to be the presentation of statement of financial position and profit or loss statement in that case?

    Thank you in advance.

    July 28, 2021 at 10:38 pm #629719
    P2-D2
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    Try it out yourself and then I can correct any errors, if at all you make any.

    Thanks

    July 30, 2021 at 8:31 pm #629881
    7fsa
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    Dear Chris,

    I hope you are safe and well,
    First of all I would like to thank you for your appreciated effort and informative lecture,
    in regards to revaluation loss, I am going to present example 2 and its solution of the financial statement.
    Could you correct any error of the following entries and the presentation of the financial statement,please?
    Given information.
    On 01.01.2013
    PPE=$12000
    Residual value =0
    Expected useful life =10 Yrs,
    31.12.2014
    The asset was revalued at its fair value to be $14000
    On 31.12.2015
    The asset was revalued at its fair value to be $8000
    Required the financial statement for the year ended 31.12.2015
    Solution
    Assets carrying value before the first revaluation as follow
    =the original value less the accumulated depreciation.
    Accumulated depreciation =(12000/10yrs) x 2yrs
    = $2400
    Then the carrying value = 12000-24000=9600
    On 31.12.2014 at the date of revaluation
    Gain of revaluation = $14000-$9600
    =$4400
    Cr:Gain on revaluation (OCI) $4400
    Dr:Accumulated depreciation(SFP) 2400
    Dr: P.P.E SFP (balancing figure) 2000
    The depreciation Expense for the year of 2015
    Annual depreciation expense =(14000/8yrs)
    =1750
    Dr Depreciation expense (SPL) $1750
    Cr Accumulated Depreciation (SFP) $1750

    by the end of the year gain on revaluation account is going to be closed to Revaluation surplus account in the equity section through the following entry
    Dr Gain on revaluation (OCI) $4400
    Cr Retained earnings (SFP) $4400
    At the end of the year we should increase the profit of the year through the retained earning account due to the excess depreciation expense charged to the profit or loss account due to the increase in the value of the PPE due to the revaluation surplus
    Then, Excess depreciation =$1750-1200=550
    Dr revaluation reserves 550
    Cr Retained earnings 550
    The financial position before the 2nd revaluation AT 31.12.2015
    **Statement of the financial position
    PPE(NCA) 12250
    Revaluation Reserves(Equity section) 3850
    **Statement of the profit or loss
    Depreciation expense(SPL) 1750
    Gain on revaluation (OCI) 4400
    At the date of the 2nd revaluation On 31.12.2015
    the value of the PPE was fallen to 8000
    Impairment loss =$12250-8000=4250
    Cr Accumulated depreciation (SFP) 4250
    Dr Revaluation Reserves (SFP) 3850
    Dr Impairment loss (balancing figure) $400
    The presentation of the financial statement after the second revaluation n 31.12.2015
    **Statement of the financial position
    PPE $8000
    Revaluation Reserves $0
    **Statement of the profit or loss
    Depreciation expense $1750
    Impairment loss $400

    Could you sir check out the presentation of the financial statement at 31.12.2015 and tell me the errors, please?
    Sorry for the long question and your time,
    Thank you so much.

    August 1, 2021 at 9:58 am #630016
    P2-D2
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    Wow! That looks perfect, well done. You’ve fully understood how to do the impairment of a previously revalued asset.

    Thanks

    August 21, 2021 at 8:26 pm #632458
    7fsa
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    Dear Chris,

    I hope you are safe and well,
    Regarding the impairment loss that you have mentioned in your informative lecture in the 2nd revaluation process in the Statement of the profit or loss and other comprehensive income as per my entry above in the last comment I have just mentioned one impairment which is recognized in the profit or loss $400 at 31.12.2015.
    and I have deducted the amount of the revaluation surplus but I want to say shall I do recognize first the total amount of the impairment loss in the statement of profit or loss and other comprehensive income and then close the impairment loss in the revaluation surplus as follow,

    Cr Accumulated depreciation $4400
    Dr Impairment loss(OCI) $3850
    Dr Impairment loss (SPL)balancing figure $400
    and in this case we are going to create a new account in the chart of account regarding the impairment loss and must be classified as OCI account.
    so we have two account regarding the impairment loss the first one Is classified normally under the profit or loss and the second impairment loss is classified under OCI.
    and just such like the revaluation gain by the end of the year should be closed in the revaluation surplus account in the equity section of the balance sheet.
    Dr Revaluation Surplus (SFP) $3850
    Cr Impairment loss (OCI) $3850

    Could you check out my work out?
    if am I wrong or right, because I have doubt about to recognise the impairment loss in the statement in the profit or loss and OCI first then close such amount In the revaluation surplus account at the end of the year.

    Thank you in advance.

    August 29, 2021 at 11:01 am #633348
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    Do you not have a model answer that you can compare your workings to? This should help you identify if you are correct or not.

    Thanks

    June 8, 2023 at 6:29 pm #686563
    iykat
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    Hello Sir,
    Please what is the double entry to record a revaluation loss which is more than prior year gain. Eg. prior year gain is $1000 and current year loss is $1500

    June 19, 2023 at 7:15 pm #687251
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    DR OCI $1,000 (removing the prior year gain)
    DR SPL $500 (remainder of the loss posted through profit or loss)
    CR Asset $1,500

    Hope that helps.

    Thanks

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