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Associate Goodwill

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  • This topic has 11 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 2 years ago by P2-D2.
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  • May 10, 2010 at 9:52 am #43823
    ratna1238
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    Hi Werty,

    I am quite confuse doing 2 questions with 2 different type of answers and I am sure you can help me.

    June 2009 Question for Pacemaker, Syclop and Vardine.
    In the answer sheet provided on the ACCA website, Vardine according to my calculation will have a goodwill of:
    Cost of investment – (Shares + RE ) * 30%
    120m – (100m + 160m) * 30%
    = 42m goodwill
    This 42m goodwill is nowhere can be seen in the answer sheet. As if that goodwill calculation is not necessary to be done.

    Where in the REVISION KIT for HORSEFIELD, SANDFLY and ANTHILL
    There is a calculation of Goodwill for Anthill, here 120 and I can see that 120 is included in the SOFP under the title of INVESTMENT IN ASSOCIATE.

    My question is…. Why on 1 question the associate goodwill is not accounted for and on the other question it is accounted for? Isn´t it a bit not consistent?

    Thank you.

    Ratna

    May 10, 2010 at 3:43 pm #60175
    Salman
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    Ratna, according to my knowledge, we do not calculate any goodwill for associate. we just put the investment in associate figure in the balance sheet. that is it. this is what i think so. dont know if i am right or wrong.

    May 10, 2010 at 4:53 pm #60176
    ratna1238
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    Hi Salman,

    Yes, we do calculate the goodwill for associate. Look at your Kaplan Text Book for Test Your Understanding 1 Chapter 4. The investment in associate in SOFP include goodwill.

    Ratna

    May 10, 2010 at 4:58 pm #60177
    MikeLittle
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    Hi! There are two ways of arriving at the SoFP “Investment in Associate”

    Method 1 is “Share of Associate’s net assets at year end + premium on acquisition” Method 2 is “Cost of investment in Associate + share of post-acquisition retained – “goodwill” impaired since acquisition”

    Either method should arrive at the same figure. I personally think that method 1 is quicker and easier.

    HOWEVER! There is a situation which you will face at P2 level where method 1 does not work. In addition, Ratna is correct in saying that the premium paid to acquire the Associate company shares should no longer be called goodwill! This premium is calculated in exactly the same way as if it were a subsidiary, but it’s a premium, not goodwill.

    Does that help?

    May 10, 2010 at 5:00 pm #60178
    MikeLittle
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    Sorry Ratna, I got confused with who had written which post. Of course, you are correct and ( in my view ) so is Kaplan. But it shouldn’t be called “goodwill”

    May 10, 2010 at 6:33 pm #60179
    Salman
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    oh, see it shouldnt be called goodwill, hehe 😛

    May 11, 2010 at 1:25 pm #60180
    ratna1238
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    Hi Werty,

    Thank you. Yes, it helps.

    @Salman, may god bless you mate. 😉

    Ratna

    May 18, 2010 at 4:42 pm #60181
    MikeLittle
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    welcome

    March 8, 2022 at 4:24 am #650145
    nanisaid98
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    Hi, I want to ask what will answer be for goodwill for Pacemaker? Why they dont include NCI at acquisition in answer sheet?

    March 8, 2022 at 8:46 am #650177
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    There is no goodwill in the associate under equity accounting.

    Thanks

    December 12, 2022 at 2:23 pm #674358
    Anonymous
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    On January 2, 20X3, Venmo Corporation, which adopts IFRS, purchased 30% of the
    outstanding voting common stock of Light Company for $140,000. This purchase gave Venmo
    the ability to exercise significant influence over the operating and financial policies of Light.
    On the date of purchase, Light’s books reported assets of $500,000 and liabilities of
    $150,000. Any excess of cost over book value of Venmo’s investment was attributed to a patent
    with a remaining useful life of ten years

    In this case, what is the excess of cost over book value recognized as?

    December 30, 2022 at 9:00 am #675207
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    We have paid 140,000 for the net assets of 350,000 (500,000 less 150,000) a difference of 210,000. This would be what they are looking for.

    Thanks.

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