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- December 7, 2018 at 5:45 pm #488284
Did anyone get a negative APV?
In Q2, I got the basis also in negative. Anybody? The spot rate was lower than futures I think.
December 7, 2018 at 5:48 pm #488287@w01122 said:
Does anyone remember what they got for the APV? All i remember was that the financing impact had a big positive effect for my base case NPV calculation. I assume I went wrong somewhere, but couldn’t figure it out.How did you treat the tax relief for the bank loan? The question said that the loan is paid back evenly over the 4 years, so did you deduct the repayment per year, and then calculate interest and tax relief of the netted amount?
I thought b) was quite weirdly worded, still not really sure what they were asking
I have got NPV about negative 5 mln,
Tax relief for bank loan I did separately for 4 years, and yes, with deducting the repayments. Actually by using the annuity factor.
Then I applied df 4% (as risk free, was given). The tax 30% on the summary of 4 discounted numbersFor subsidized loan, apart from the tax relief on 3.1%, I additionally calculated tax relief on the difference of (rfr 4% – 3.1%)
December 7, 2018 at 5:53 pm #488292Guys, one question. Did you inflate the post-tax cashflows in the base npv exercise or just used the inflation rate for the purposes of investment maintenance?
December 7, 2018 at 5:59 pm #488293Yes, 15.98 negative APV…15.30 negative base NPV
December 7, 2018 at 6:01 pm #488294For question 1c What did you have to do with the 400 m debt for Tai and what did you calculate as current value of a Tai share. I got a very small figure so my gains were extremely high. Couldn’t recall what I did in my past exam practice questions..
December 7, 2018 at 6:19 pm #488300@vatalya said:
For question 1c What did you have to do with the 400 m debt for Tai and what did you calculate as current value of a Tai share. I got a very small figure so my gains were extremely high. Couldn’t recall what I did in my past exam practice questions..i calculated free cashflow of tai (to my mind, included interest expense accruing from 400m debt in the calculation) then used the growth model for the calculation of value.
received around 930m.
December 7, 2018 at 6:41 pm #488302I got a negative NPV and positive APV.
Around -5m NPV can’t remember my APV
Remember that you need to do the bank loan on an amortised approach.
It’s paid in equal annual instalments therefore is 70/80 (can’t rememebr whjcb one) over the annuity factor of 8% (you can either use 8% or risk free 3.1% both give credit)
Then take your starting loan, apply interest of 8% then take off the repayment amount
Repeat this for 4 years
Take the interest per year and apply tax of 30% then finally discount at the respective year discount rate
December 7, 2018 at 6:42 pm #488303@vind1994 said:
Did anyone get a negative APV?In Q2, I got the basis also in negative. Anybody? The spot rate was lower than futures I think.
I got the basis as positive but that’s how I do it
I took opening futures, took off the basis remaining (*1/7) and calculated my future receipt
Future opening was 1.3ish and spot was 1.2ish so I got positive basis
December 7, 2018 at 6:46 pm #488306Guys, I think fretting over APV being positive or negative is futile. We can even assume the net cash flows and make APV positive or negative provided we do all other calculations correctly. Obviously we must write the decision whether to accept the project or reject accordingly. Own figure Run (OFM) applies in AFM as well. Chill 🙂
December 7, 2018 at 6:47 pm #488308Btw what was your answer of Portfolio and organization restructuring??
December 7, 2018 at 7:01 pm #488314Question 2 I got put options, 98 contracts. I got negative APV in question 3. I think the exam was fair and covered the syllabus well compared to the September sitting. Good luck everyone 🙂
December 7, 2018 at 8:02 pm #488324Did you guys divide to convert or multiply for question 2
December 7, 2018 at 8:10 pm #48832512.3M CHF divided by the rate 1.03 something …got less in USD than was the amount in CHF
December 7, 2018 at 8:15 pm #488326Ok . I did that too but the way those rates were written has me unsure. But I wasn’t wasting time trying to do something different to what I practised. I’m very nervous. Need to pass.
December 7, 2018 at 8:18 pm #488328Multiplied. I think it was quoted US$/CHF 1.034… so it was 1.3some US for every 1 CHF so you always had to multiply to get the US$.
December 7, 2018 at 8:23 pm #488329I took it as mathematically 1usd/1chf=1.034 from which 1usd=1.034chf….which means dollar is “stronger” currency as chf.
December 7, 2018 at 8:35 pm #488331Oh no. Wonder how many marks I’ll lose for that
December 8, 2018 at 12:19 am #488364@jmmyjimmy said:
i calculated free cashflow of tai (to my mind, included interest expense accruing from 400m debt in the calculation) then used the growth model for the calculation of value.received around 930m.
I calculated value of Tai co using free cash flow method, and deducted 400m debt (market value) to get value of equity of Tai co. And took this figure to divide by number of shares. Share price of Tai co is $3.80, if not mistaken
December 8, 2018 at 12:36 am #488365@niccpx said:
I calculated value of Tai co using free cash flow method, and deducted 400m debt (market value) to get value of equity of Tai co. And took this figure to divide by number of shares. Share price of Tai co is $3.80, if not mistakenI got this exactly also. 1400 total market value, deduct the 400mv debt to get 1000 equity value 🙂
December 8, 2018 at 1:22 am #488368@niccpx said:
I calculated value of Tai co using free cash flow method, and deducted 400m debt (market value) to get value of equity of Tai co. And took this figure to divide by number of shares. Share price of Tai co is $3.80, if not mistakenI did the same though got a different answer.
The value if equity in Chao was simple, basically given. Share price given × no. of shares.
The value of equity in Tai was a FCFF and then take away the debt figure.
The combined company was a FCFF also but cash flows over a number if years and a deferred growing perpetuity. 60% is equity so this equity value.
For the share premium question the cash offers were pretty straight forward (I think).
The shareoffers were confusing and I’m sure I got them wrong but hopefully got a few marks along the way.
The mixed offer mentioned that the shares would be 2.60 after, so is this the value of Chao shareholder after? Seems to straight forward but it basically says this is the value. Tai value would be the 2.60 plus the cash offer per share, is this right?
It’s a pity we don’t get to keep the question sheets, I wouldn’t mind having a look.
December 8, 2018 at 2:20 am #488373@corinneh said:
Multiplied. I think it was quoted US$/CHF 1.034… so it was 1.3some US for every 1 CHF so you always had to multiply to get the US$.Yeah I did this
December 8, 2018 at 4:37 am #488378I got 2.72
December 8, 2018 at 4:38 am #488379I made a mistake on my APV final amount but i know i got most calcs rights so i did something like adding up wrong. I hope i get marks
December 8, 2018 at 5:17 am #488381I divided by 6 months future (buy dollar rate)
December 8, 2018 at 5:25 am #488383I used given Ba on CAPM gives 12% I think (cannot remember)
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