• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar
Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free Notes, Lectures, Tests and Forums for ACCA and CIMA exams

  • ACCA
  • CIMA
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Books
  • Forums
  • Ask AI
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
  • ACCA Forums
  • Ask ACCA Tutor
  • CIMA Forums
  • Ask CIMA Tutor
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Buy/Sell Books
  • All Forums
  • Latest Topics

20% off ACCA & CIMA Books

OpenTuition recommends the new interactive BPP books for March and June 2025 exams.
Get your discount code >>

*** ACCA P5 September 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA APM Advanced Performance Management Forums › *** ACCA P5 September 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

  • This topic has 72 replies, 42 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by danielglover.
Viewing 23 posts - 51 through 73 (of 73 total)
← 1 2 3
  • Author
    Posts
  • September 9, 2016 at 12:17 am #339223
    uzomaogbu
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 4
    • ☆

    the scenarios are too lengthy, it takes approximately 45mins to 1hr to read the whole scenarios .i.e about 1/3 of the available time for the exam. its like the examiners are purposely using it to distract our writing time

    September 9, 2016 at 1:51 am #339230
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 17
    • ☆

    I am glad I am not the only one. Felt he same also for Q1 iii (profit / capital measuring questions…), read it almost 6 times and could not understand what it was actually meaning? I am not a native english though…

    September 9, 2016 at 4:17 am #339236
    weekheng
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 1
    • ☆

    I think the free use of the 15 mins time help a lot in completing the exam on time. This is a good change!

    September 9, 2016 at 8:35 am #339300
    ogkiev
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 1
    • ☆

    What about restructuring costs in Q.1? I assumed it should have been capitalized and not expensed. So added to capital and removed from expenses, then recalculated ROCE and ROI. Not sure if right.

    September 9, 2016 at 8:35 am #339301
    accastudent66
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 3
    • ☆

    @kassy said:
    I am glad I am not the only one. Felt he same also for Q1 iii (profit / capital measuring questions…), read it almost 6 times and could not understand what it was actually meaning? I am not a native english though…

    I am a native speaker and I struggled to understand some of their wording so I can only imagine how it must have felt for non-native speakers.

    September 9, 2016 at 9:29 am #339316
    Olga
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 6
    • ☆

    Hi @Raja, I dedicated around 2-3 hours a day to read the complete text; the book is lengthy but a significant part of it is dedicated to familiar concepts covered before in f5 and p3, it tries to give those topics a “performance management” approach now… Also many Test Your Understanding questions in Kaplan were ~previous years exam questions modified, so it saved me time when working with the Exam Kit.

    September 9, 2016 at 11:19 am #339339
    dammyadek
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 3
    • ☆

    Oh goosh. Really time pressured such that i had no time to fill out the questions i answered on the answer booklet..couldn’t finish…What do you think will happen?
    The exams would have been ok for a 4 hour paper. A computer brain is needed to do justice within the time allocated…you input the info and you process and then you bring out the result..you pass…wished it were that simple. Maybe the examiners should also as a control sit for the papers at the same time as the students and make their findings and score public rather than in the examiner’s reports. On a positive note, sometimes the exam you feel worse about turns to a surprice pass just like my last P2…Lets all keep our hopes up…It is truly a professional exam

    September 9, 2016 at 11:23 am #339341
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 1
    • ☆

    Hi @raja!!!

    I self studied for P7 and P5, which I sat for in June 2015 and June 2016 respectively. I used Kaplan’s Essentials Text for both papers… Only referred to the Study Text when in-depth knowledge and understanding was needed.

    Timing: Started studying for the exams three months away; Since I am in full time employment, I spent 3 – 4 hours a day on studies; Spent the final four weeks revising and reading technical articles.

    Best of luck to Sept 2016 candidates with exam results!!!!

    September 9, 2016 at 4:11 pm #339376
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 17
    • ☆

    Hi,

    If I ere you I would use course notes, videos (OT) and focus on exam practice.
    I would do all the questions and see ho they are ansered? That should be enough in terms of theory because the exam is only 20% theory.

    The challenge from my perspective is actually to understand the requirements. So practice all questions, at least from June 11 onwards

    Good luck. Challenging paper

    September 10, 2016 at 9:38 am #339643
    shoukat
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 1
    • ☆

    if any body attempted q3 .i just want to know from him about abc calculation which was given in the question
    thanks

    September 10, 2016 at 10:07 am #339648
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 7
    • ☆

    Hi
    In question 1, was the difference between existing & proposed performance measures was only Innovation & Learning part? Coz I didn’t find any other, may be I was wrong.
    Another thing, what’s the problem in using different Performance measure. It was a part of question 1, right?

    September 12, 2016 at 4:30 pm #340077
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 4
    • ☆

    I totally agree with you the optional questions were too long.

    September 12, 2016 at 4:40 pm #340087
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 4
    • ☆

    I found the paper to be a difficult one, the main issue for me was that the optional questions were too long giving all the complications that existed in the scenario and the time available to read and plan how to appropriately answer the questions.

    September 13, 2016 at 12:41 am #340290
    danielglover
    Member
    • Topics: 13
    • Replies: 100
    • ☆☆

    Hi all,

    Interesting hearing people’s thoughts about the wording of the questions causing confusion. Is it possible the confusion is because you haven’t fully studied and understood the subject rather than the examiner’s grammar?

    September 13, 2016 at 11:41 am #340317
    maineventqk
    Member
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 6
    • ☆

    IMO the questions themselves were not confusing but looking at the past ten papers, you gotta say the scenarios were all comparatively lengthy. Typically, one out of 3 questions in section B would be shorter.

    I implore the markers to be flexible in assessing the candidates knowledge. For example in 1a, if I wrote on the prisms advantage over the BSc, I shd be given marks for it because they are the facts. Just because it’s “out of the sylllabus” does not mean the argument isn’t valid. And why the abrupt change in syllabus? September candidates are usually June 16 failures so the sudden drop of topics isn’t very helpful IMO.

    September 13, 2016 at 11:21 pm #340411
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 1
    • ☆

    I did same as most of you. Q1 and then q2 and q 4 – I taught myself home study. And found it ok although forgot stuff as large syllabus and did my best with what I knew. I thought fair but difficult paper but all acca exams are hard- otherwise everyone would do acca if it did challenge ! We are clever to get to this stage. I will resist if I fail this paper as thought mostly a fair paper.

    September 14, 2016 at 10:25 am #340308
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 2
    • ☆

    Question 1… i) Problems of BSC…The cost paid to the consultant may outweigh the benefit obtained as the same performance metrics recommended by the consultant. second Bsc is a time consuming exercise. Third BSC may be difficult to understand some measures. Fourth BSC gives too many information so that information overload. and so on
    ii) The current PM is helpful in measuring performance specially the profitability of the company. Financial measures are easy to calculate and understand. Most of the objectives measured except on strategy. But all metrics are Financial and not including Non Financial measures that can measure important performance areas. Second all measures internally focused.
    The Proposed performance measures:- Looking at critical areas of companies strategies by devising BSC. The learning and innovation perspective is additional area by the proposal. But, The PM metrics are the same as the current PM metrics. It doesn’t come up with non financial measures. Financial measures like EVA are more important than ROCE as they provide information on value creation for shareholders.
    iii)The FOUR different computations of ROCE. This can be calculated from the given profit figures and CE figures. and Net profit divided by Total Capital employed 11% is more appropriate for the whole company not for the division. The first computation (operating profit divided by Total CE) good for measuring division performance that are controllable profit figures.
    iv) TQM and Current Quality management.
    Current quality management has a 47% failure costs from the total quality cost that can be avoided if company works on quality. (Computation of quality cost is easy as given in the scenario.
    TQM..Modern philosophy of manufacturing and Continues improvement of quality and zero defects. if implemented the 47% defect can be avoided.
    v) Lean…Avoiding wastage and reducing cost and information flow become more flexible and timely with more reliable fashion. The scientists can update themselves and can be innovative and efficiency may be obtained if implemented.
    These was my answers for Q1 shortly. am I on the right truck? please comment on my answer.

    September 14, 2016 at 10:25 am #340354
    danielglover
    Member
    • Topics: 13
    • Replies: 100
    • ☆☆

    The first question asked about the problems with implementing the BSC in the company, why would you be given marks talking about the prism?

    September 15, 2016 at 2:15 am #340626
    maineventqk
    Member
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 6
    • ☆

    Depends on how the arguments are framed. Anyway the prism was only used to highlight the weakness of the BSc in determining stakeholder demands and contribution. If I fail it would be question 2 which I should have done first in hindsight.

    Do all of you always start with q1? For all the level 3 papers I start with the optional ones. It’s back to the drawing board for me. Sigh

    September 16, 2016 at 6:44 pm #340736
    bridgestamford11
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 2
    • ☆

    would like to ask about question number 4 part a i and ii
    what was the question about ? I don’t remember the exact requirement. I linked how the proposed kpi (bying internally) would help achieve the objectives (4 objectives given in the scenario). do i make sense ?
    for the first part i again wrote how focusing on csf would help achieve the objectives (again took the 4 objectives in turn without taking any csf into consideration)..

    Lastly, what are some of the issues in taking market price as the transfer price ?
    Should we base the answer on division C solely or should we also consider other division B ?

    September 19, 2016 at 9:20 am #340887
    veekay
    Member
    • Topics: 0
    • Replies: 7
    • ☆

    @danielglover said:
    Hi all,

    Interesting hearing people’s thoughts about the wording of the questions causing confusion. Is it possible the confusion is because you haven’t fully studied and understood the subject rather than the examiner’s grammar?

    For most people taking this course English is not our mother tongue. That said there is something about the way P5 questions are asked that leaves most wondering what does the examiner really want.

    September 22, 2016 at 1:09 pm #341379
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 15
    • ☆

    @maineventqk said:
    IMO the questions themselves were not confusing but looking at the past ten papers, you gotta say the scenarios were all comparatively lengthy. Typically, one out of 3 questions in section B would be shorter.

    I implore the markers to be flexible in assessing the candidates knowledge. For example in 1a, if I wrote on the prisms advantage over the BSc, I shd be given marks for it because they are the facts. Just because it’s “out of the sylllabus” does not mean the argument isn’t valid. And why the abrupt change in syllabus? September candidates are usually June 16 failures so the sudden drop of topics isn’t very helpful IMO.

    JUST BECAUSE IT’S “OUT OF THE SYLLABUS” DOES NOT MEAN THE ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

    Thank you!!

    September 27, 2016 at 7:24 pm #341903
    danielglover
    Member
    • Topics: 13
    • Replies: 100
    • ☆☆

    I cannot imagine doing these exams in another language! It must be hard.

  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 23 posts - 51 through 73 (of 73 total)
← 1 2 3
  • The topic ‘*** ACCA P5 September 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***’ is closed to new replies.

Primary Sidebar

Donate
If you have benefited from our materials, please donate

ACCA News:

ACCA My Exam Performance for non-variant

Applied Skills exams is available NOW

ACCA Options:  “Read the Mind of the Marker” articles

Subscribe to ACCA’s Student Accountant Direct

ACCA CBE 2025 Exams

How was your exam, and what was the exam result?

BT CBE exam was.. | MA CBE exam was..
FA CBE exam was.. | LW CBE exam was..

Donate

If you have benefited from OpenTuition please donate.

PQ Magazine

Latest Comments

  • Nicholas1239798 on IASB Conceptual Framework – Introduction – ACCA Financial Reporting (FR)
  • Starmoon123 on Strategy formulation (Part 2) – ACCA (AFM) lectures
  • nosiphoceliwedlamini@gmail.com on Revenue – Example 5 (profitable contracts) – ACCA Financial Reporting (FR)
  • amaanalli on Fraud, bribery, whistle-blowing and company ethics – ACCA Strategic Business Leader (SBL)
  • verweijlisa on Group SPL – Group profit on disposal – ACCA Financial Reporting (FR)

Copyright © 2025 · Support · Contact · Advertising · OpenLicense · About · Sitemap · Comments · Log in