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- December 8, 2016 at 8:54 pm #362448
I agree with you totally. This is my third sitting with one year interval (thought I’d passed Sep 15 and started studying for P6!), but I feel I need to take it again. It’s really frustrating. I found P5 more straightforward and interesting.
I feel I have knowledge, but don’t seem to be able to get my head around the questions.
Good luck with your results.
December 8, 2016 at 8:55 pm #362450AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Fair enough for thinking outside the box but I would think paperless environment is driven just as much – if not more – because of businesses reducing their cost base and due to advancements in technology…most people want ebooks etc rather than hard copy now because its more easily accessible storage wise and don’t care so much about saving trees
December 8, 2016 at 9:41 pm #362460Does anyone remember how many marks on the last part of question 1, change mangement etc? I didn have time to go back to do the question π
December 8, 2016 at 9:43 pm #362461The three companies in question 1…
How did u plot them on the ashtridge model?
December 8, 2016 at 9:43 pm #362462What are the principles of e procurement
December 8, 2016 at 9:44 pm #362463It was 8 marks I believe
December 8, 2016 at 9:45 pm #362464@jamiemiu said:
Does anyone remember how many marks on the last part of question 1, change mangement etc? I didn have time to go back to do the question πIt was 8 marks I believe
December 8, 2016 at 9:55 pm #362466AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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6 marks for the very last part of Q1 I think (was in reference to role of finance team member re change management, project management, risk management and one other can’t remember)
December 8, 2016 at 9:59 pm #362468Think the other was the business case
December 8, 2016 at 10:11 pm #362471@suger890 said:
The three companies in question 1…How did u plot them on the ashtridge model?
I believe I said the paper company was alien business, the mobile app company was value trap and the other one I said ballast business.
December 8, 2016 at 10:13 pm #362472@jamiemiu said:
Does anyone remember how many marks on the last part of question 1, change mangement etc? I didn have time to go back to do the question πIt was 8 marks. I also didn’t have time to go back to it. I wrote a couple of basic sentences to hopefully get a mark or 2 but realised I had already spent too long on Q1 and didn’t want to throw away easy marks from the optional questions.
December 8, 2016 at 10:26 pm #362473@kris1502 said:
The Project initiation document or whatever it was and you had to state what was omitted and reasons why info should be included. I studied for this exam pretty hard but did not come across this at all.Then the question about what a finance team member should contribute to change, project & risk management (& one other can’t remember) – where was this in the syllabus as I did not come across it?
2nd part of exam focused on narrow topic areas in my opinion. I look at Q2 (regression and time series analysis) having looked at this just last night but decided not to do because my calculator bat went! and I thought prob take ages with disseminating/analysing the info anyway.
Onto Q3 and this was e-commerce model – again fine with that but then seemed to focus heavily on e-procurement. Again I did not come across this in so much detail in my study (I know what e-procurement is but for so many marks this threw me).
Q4 was fair enough but any previous questions re cultural web was more open ended – this question was specifically to address staff development with relation to cultural web. Bit harder question IMO. Competency and learning development questions (2 x 5 marks) fair enough.
I did the Sep 16 paper and thought that was a very easy paper. Guess just depends on luck sometimes with what you get – what suits one person won’t suit another.
There was a past paper question on PID, I believe it was something to do with a project for a mayor implementing a new traffic system. I don’t believe the OpenTuition lectures mention it much though.
I believe the finance team member question was more from P1. Sometimes the P3 exam does include some topics from P1, i’ve seen past exam questions on CG and ethics.
I felt the same about Q2a. There were a few past papers and an article on ACCA website that had questions like this, one of them looked almost identical. However with 30 minutes left and a choice between Q3 and Q2 I didn’t want to spend time trying to understand and do the calculations.
Yeah, I don’t recall coming across e-procurement either. I think it’s just assumed knowledge or expects you to just develop your understanding of e-business.
In regards to Q4 I have to agree. Saw a past exam paper with a similar scenario but the question was more just “evaluate the culture using the cultural web” rather than having to relate it to another aspect.
December 8, 2016 at 10:37 pm #362474@ddmoo said:
There was a past paper question on PID, I believe it was something to do with a project for a mayor implementing a new traffic system. I don’t believe the OpenTuition lectures mention it much though.I believe the finance team member question was more from P1. Sometimes the P3 exam does include some topics from P1, i’ve seen past exam questions on CG and ethics.
I felt the same about Q2a. There were a few past papers and an article on ACCA website that had questions like this, one of them looked almost identical. However with 30 minutes left and a choice between Q3 and Q2 I didn’t want to spend time trying to understand and do the calculations.
Yeah, I don’t recall coming across e-procurement either. I think it’s just assumed knowledge or expects you to just develop your understanding of e-business.
In regards to Q4 I have to agree. Saw a past exam paper with a similar scenario but the question was more just “evaluate the culture using the cultural web” rather than having to relate it to another aspect.
Ddmoo the e procurement was in the it chapter. Its called upstream supply chain management. I had it on my to do list but only glossed over it. Seems they are spreading lots more questions out over the “last” chapters these days as in the old style of the exam, the 50 marker always used to cime from the first 7 chapters
December 8, 2016 at 10:39 pm #362476@lauren7 said:
Really struggled with this paper, mainly question 1.for the omissions part I used the kaleidoscope headings like timings, capacity, capability, scope…do you think I would get anything for that? seem to be way off from what people on here have said?
No they usually say contextual features and list out the headings for you if they are after the Balogun Hope Hailey Model. Model for part A was the BCG Matrix
Omissions was based on project initiation document. I drew a blank and really stuffed this one up.
December 8, 2016 at 10:43 pm #362477Found the e marketing very challenging. Couldn’t work out whether to use 6 i’s as they also listed 5 ps of pricing. Nightmare question. It was that or Regression Analysis
December 8, 2016 at 11:06 pm #362480AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@kbourne said:
Ddmoo the e procurement was in the it chapter. Its called upstream supply chain management. I had it on my to do list but only glossed over it. Seems they are spreading lots more questions out over the “last” chapters these days as in the old style of the exam, the 50 marker always used to cime from the first 7 chaptersYeah I think your right I’ve looked at the technical articles and it was one of only 2 I hadn’t looked at by mistake (Project management explains PID and the learning development was the other technical article I hadn’t printed and read -bloody typical!)
Yeah the Linear regression was very similar to the technical article but I didn’t feel the technical article explained the time series part very well so thought also I’m best not trying to explain something I didn’t quite get myself 100% (interpretation of the numbers rather than calculations that is)
Yeah also agree P3 seems to add questions from other papers…ratio analysis, P1 Governance & Ethics etc
Yep I thought the same if you understand e-commerce and also understand procurement you should be able to have a stab at answering the exam question but few minor points like this I thought was not exactly fair i.e. I didn’t see any syllabus objectives saying must be able to explain e-procurement in detail but I will go back and check π
December 8, 2016 at 11:36 pm #362485Trust me I read the question time and time again and have seen quesitions like those.It was not a must to apply BCG matrix.However in conclusion BCG matrix would have made your life easier in identifying the relative contribution of each company to the portifolio and whether they will be significant in the company`s future strategy.
The company`s future growth strategy was that venture on a project that would introduce E-commerce.As the society was gradually becoming paperless and paper industry growth contracting, it ca be doubted that PP would be significant in the future strategy.After all they controlled only 4% of the market share yet market growth slowing down.It was a dog which would be prone to divestment in future.
However diagram was the cashcow by no doubt.Controlling about 36% market share in the market thathas stagnated.It`s revenues grew more than the industry.It has managed to secure a unique niche which might be depending on their bespoke engineering and technical books.The future e bussiness model should be modelled to accommodate Diagrama as it is clear it isvery important as a financier in this portifolio.
What
s this has been enjoying a persistent increase in revenues and the industry is surging.The industry grew by 86% overall while What
s this recorded a 288% growth in sales since 2011 in general.This should remind us the extent to which the paperless society has rose to prominence in that country.Controlling about 27% in the growing market it is a star.It is the perfect foundation which is consistent with the ongoing project to introduce an E BUSINESS model.Therefore it is very relevant to the future strategy.The question wanted you to assess: performance to date,contribution to the portifolio, and significance of each business to the future strategy.You shouldnthave been restricted to any model but it would have made your life easier.
December 8, 2016 at 11:46 pm #362486i think the NPV was $492,000.we did that at F9 anyway.We needed net cash flows of which year 1 realised a loss of $220,000 beyond which postive cashflows were made.Discount year 0 by 1 (250k) and the others by thegiven discount factors.deduct the intial investment from the net discounted cashflows overall will give a positive NPV.the payback period was 4 years. even though a negative cash inflow would be made in year 1, superior posotive cash inflow in year 3 (300k) will payback the initial investment leaving a balance of 280k.Both the selected investment apparaisal techniques suggested that the project was financially feasible besides their inherent limitations. 5 marks only and must nit worry anybody
December 8, 2016 at 11:47 pm #362487i hope you have better luck in this sitting.
This was my first attempt at P3 and I feel so annoyed. I studied hard but found that I was always questioning my answers throughout the exam.
When you sat it in September did you think you had passed or failed it… I’ll be worrying/hoping between now and 16th January.. its such a pity they make the exam so difficult..
December 9, 2016 at 12:46 am #362497that was the only information which was available.anything else becomes hypothetical.ys the relative performance was based on their revenues against the whole market
December 9, 2016 at 2:39 am #362499The content for answering question 1 and case study itself is hard to bring as the time for answering is limited. For question 1a, I put in the answer about BCG, parenting matrix and some porter five forces as the reason why the subsi are acquired. For 1b, is about the project management, content for PID, CBA and finance role. Combination for part 1a and 1b make it heavier and actually need a lot of time to answer it. The application itself really technical. It is different from past year which is heavy syllabus combine with easy syllabus which is more to general application. I move on to next question as the time is out. For optional question, because question 2 really technical, I choose question 3 and 4. Question 3 and 4 is straightforward and I answering it the best that I can with the time limit.
December 9, 2016 at 2:48 am #362500Oh my were we asked to calculate the payback period too? I got same npv as you tinaboy but i did not notice payback was asked … easy marks gone since i am also doing p4
December 9, 2016 at 4:46 am #362502It was fair paper. It was tough for me.
Q1. A 18 marks.
Bcg, ashridge matrixRest of them was tough.
Totally unexpected questions.
Pid , NPV calculations…..
Q2.
linear regression and seasonal variations. I got scared seeing thr figures. Just intrepreted the figures given.
Big data. But i didnt write big.
Q3.
Service marketing mix
Principles of eprocurement.Got scared again. So i left it.
Q4.
Cultural web.
Just intrepreted the situationPartb.
Competency framework.
I forgot it.
Learning organization.
I forgot it again.
10 marks gone.Attempted 72 marks.
But not sure of passing.December 9, 2016 at 5:23 am #362503@fran29 said:
i hope you have better luck in this sitting.This was my first attempt at P3 and I feel so annoyed. I studied hard but found that I was always questioning my answers throughout the exam.
When you sat it in September did you think you had passed or failed it… I’ll be worrying/hoping between now and 16th January.. its such a pity they make the exam so difficult..
I was not really prepared for the September exams due to family commitments but had I done exam practice then I should have been ok as I missed out an entire question so in answer to your question I knew I had failed.
This paper was more difficult due to the project management NPV element despite being for less marks, it through me off and wasted my time and therefore I could not spend as much time on the other parts as I would have liked so I ended up rushing and missed easy marks. There is a page in the Kaplan text book about the role of the account changing and developing to a strategic partner which I had gone through however time wasted meant these marks were lost as I couldn’t develop the answer and panicked about time.
The struggle is to pick yourself up and start again. Is the exam results out on the 16th of Jan? That is a very quick turnaround.
December 9, 2016 at 7:29 am #362543@rosina23 said:
I was not really prepared for the September exams due to family commitments but had I done exam practice then I should have been ok as I missed out an entire question so in answer to your question I knew I had failed.This paper was more difficult due to the project management NPV element despite being for less marks, it through me off and wasted my time and therefore I could not spend as much time on the other parts as I would have liked so I ended up rushing and missed easy marks. There is a page in the Kaplan text book about the role of the account changing and developing to a strategic partner which I had gone through however time wasted meant these marks were lost as I couldn’t develop the answer and panicked about time.
The struggle is to pick yourself up and start again. Is the exam results out on the 16th of Jan? That is a very quick turnaround.
Yep 16th. Best of luck
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