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- December 8, 2017 at 10:21 pm #422119
Surely all 3 were relevant for financial management, including financial appraisal?
December 8, 2017 at 10:25 pm #422120@daisypeg said:
How did you get 37?I added all profits together and took out scrap value and divided by 4 to get average profit then dividend by average investment and got 83%
me too
December 8, 2017 at 10:27 pm #422121@laughingcoffin said:
ROCE = Avg Profit / Avg InvestmentAvg Profit
Total Profit / Number of years – DepreciationAvg Investment
Investment + Scrap Value / 2ROCE = 37%
wy are we taking depreciation to calculate avg profit?
December 8, 2017 at 10:31 pm #422122ROCE is also called ARR
Accounting Rate of Return
It uses accounting profits
Depreciation is always deducted to get profit
December 8, 2017 at 10:33 pm #422123I choose 1,2,3 for financial management purposes
For Roce
I added all profit took out depreciation and then divided by 4For initial Inv + scrap divided by 2
I don’t remember the answerDecember 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm #422125For the two MCQ with the market value of the loan notes what answers did you guys get
December 8, 2017 at 11:18 pm #422130I answered all 3 too Ricky.
December 8, 2017 at 11:23 pm #422133Same as you laughingcoffin.
December 8, 2017 at 11:26 pm #422134In question 31 after finding conversion value the loan notes were convertible so i found the cost of debt from them and thats how i got WACC around 5 i dont know if its correct as most of you are saying around 12. I got ex dividend by subtracting current divided from cum dividend and used it to calculate Ve
In the dividend policy part b just wrote about Retention and inflation and limits on dividend distribution is to be considered and exaggerated it.December 8, 2017 at 11:31 pm #422135I think I screwed up pretty bad in question 32 as I used general inflation too after inflating the contribution and fixed cost and then found NPV with nominal rate
Then for real rate i used same inflated amounts and didnt use general inflation then found npv with real rate.December 8, 2017 at 11:50 pm #422136In Q32 i inflated the contribution and fixed cost by the specific rate and i discounted using the 10% rate for part a
For part b i didnt inflate sales and contribution and discounted at 6%
No idea if thats correct but it felt right
December 9, 2017 at 2:14 am #422143what I did was wrong…what you did is right. Do you think they will give me any marks for it even though it was wrong?
December 9, 2017 at 3:57 am #422171@amirawasim said:
what I did was wrong…what you did is right. Do you think they will give me any marks for it even though it was wrong?I was thinking the same. Normally according to bpp they give marks for the reasoning if it’s alright. But i’m not sure at all… I guess it depends .
December 9, 2017 at 5:39 am #422175Not USD 3k, is around USD500+ you need to calculate the interest, not the whole loan itself
December 9, 2017 at 7:00 am #422182@elenarus said:
does anyone remember the answer for the ROCE:
smth like “company should not undertake the projects with ROCE less then the average of the company” ?to my mind, there were answers like:
– an investment with roce lower than the company’s roce should not be approved.
– an investment with roce more than rate of return should be approved (that was my answer).December 9, 2017 at 7:11 am #422189@kanchandhankar said:
I remember choosing D
Something about investor might buy to the news of prospective share price growthOther option were
Good news from company …… ..?
Sorry I don’t remember anything elseI think there were following options:
– even there is a dividend cut, the company’s value may still increase.
– investors act rationally following the news about the company.any thoughts?
December 9, 2017 at 8:44 am #422209@maxxskeleton said:
Not USD 3k, is around USD500+ you need to calculate the interest, not the whole loan itselfWhich question are you talking about?
December 9, 2017 at 8:50 am #422210@jmmyjimmy said:
I think there were following options:– even there is a dividend cut, the company’s value may still increase.
– investors act rationally following the news about the company.any thoughts?
It was to do with behavioural….?
I chose D as I thought investor might buy to the news of prospective share price growthWhat was your answer
December 9, 2017 at 8:50 am #422211It seemed Easy at thé moment but when reading your answers it looks obvious that i failed
December 9, 2017 at 9:01 am #422212Yes I chose closing account receivable the average balance will give a false operating cycle I think we always use the closing balance
December 9, 2017 at 9:06 am #422213@maxxskeleton said:
Not USD 3k, is around USD500+ you need to calculate the interest, not the whole loan itselfYes interest only
But I remember my answer with forward rate peso /$ was 12000December 9, 2017 at 9:08 am #422214@kanchandhankar said:
It was to do with behavioural….?
I chose D as I thought investor might buy to the news of prospective share price growthWhat was your answer
i chose that the mv may increase even if the dividend is cut (on the basis that dividend cut will inrease earnings). no idea, whether it is right or wrong. 🙁
December 9, 2017 at 9:16 am #422216@jmmyjimmy said:
i chose that the mv may increase even if the dividend is cut (on the basis that dividend cut will inrease earnings). no idea, whether it is right or wrong. 🙁As I remember reading that option it said dividend cut may increase share price.
With your logic it may be right
As even m not sure
I chose on the base that it was to do with behavioural aspects , share price prospects might urge investor to invest
It was a random guessDecember 9, 2017 at 10:15 am #422223MCQs for this paper were difficult in comparison to the LFQs in my opinion!
December 9, 2017 at 10:50 am #422228Was it correct to deduct 25% corporation tax off interest In wacc loan calc?
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