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NEWIMBER CO (MAR/JUN 19)

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  • This topic has 10 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 3 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • January 30, 2021 at 1:48 pm #608587
    Noah098
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    Sir why have we deducted TAX on operating CASH FLOW, when trying to value the sportswear company?

    January 30, 2021 at 3:57 pm #608601
    John Moffat
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    When calculating the free cash flow to the firm we always calculate tax on the cash flow before tax and interest.

    It is because the interest and the tax saving on it are dealt with in the calculation of the cost of debt and therefore in the WACC at which we discount.

    To include them in the cash flows would be accounting for them twice.

    January 31, 2021 at 5:52 am #608618
    Noah098
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    Sir I have done plethora of questions from the exam kit so far, and nowhere did I ever see a sum calculating tax on operating cash flow. It has always been on operating profits(in cases where WACC was available and had to find FCF to firm).

    I certainly feel there is some sort of blip, because its really an exception.

    January 31, 2021 at 5:55 am #608620
    Noah098
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    Operating cash flows are arrived at after deducting the tax from operating profits(and making other changes as adding back depreciation etc.). So, then why in this question have they deducted tax from Operating Cash flow, is basically my question.

    January 31, 2021 at 8:48 am #608637
    John Moffat
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    The operating profit is the profit before tax and interest.

    The operating cash flow is the operating profit as adjusted for non-cash items such as depreciation.

    The tax is calculated on the operating cash flow after subtracting capital allowances, but there is no mention of capital allowances here and so they are irrelevant.

    August 7, 2021 at 6:48 am #630641
    rialakhani
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    so operating c/f are operating profits + depri? so in the q if there is any depri we will not add it back to the operating c/f for finding FCF?

    August 7, 2021 at 10:29 am #630660
    John Moffat
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    Correct. The cash flow is already before subtracting the depreciation (because depreciation is not a cash flow).

    August 7, 2021 at 11:50 am #630677
    rialakhani
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    but for taxation purpose cant we add it back to find PBIT and find the taxation then deduct it from operating c/f ( if depreciation was given in q)

    August 8, 2021 at 9:29 am #630727
    John Moffat
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    No. Tax is calculated on the taxable profit which is the operating cash flow less the tax allowable depreciation.

    August 8, 2021 at 12:43 pm #630779
    rialakhani
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    ohh yes got it thank you

    August 8, 2021 at 5:18 pm #630833
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

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