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- December 6, 2012 at 11:30 am #55841
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Remember that you are studying for a professional qualification – do not make postings that are abusive or threatening.December 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm #1089391st 2 questions are easy but 2nd last and 3rd 1 is difficult…:D
overall passable paper…I hope so i will be passed…December 6, 2012 at 12:57 pm #108940Allah Pass kary ga…
December 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm #108941Question 3 was a bummer. Rest was fine. Even had trouble with question 5. What were the answers to Fuschia and the other part of question of impact on audit report’. What were the impacts? Part a and b? PLEASE answer
December 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm #108942When will the exam question paper and marking scheme be uploaded?
December 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm #108943@khizrak said:
Question 3 was a bummer. Rest was fine. Even had trouble with question 5. What were the answers to Fuschia and the other part of question of impact on audit report’. What were the impacts? Part a and b? PLEASE answera) disclaimer of onion, it is unable to form an opinion.
b) the matter should b disclosed n the emphasis of matter paragraph.December 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm #108944December 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm #108945To be honest I hate discussion exams, But this one was quite easy.
I don’t think that it should be disclaimer in 5.
I think it should be modified for Daisy on “except for” basis. It was impact only on revenue and receivables and other was fine. Financial statement was also made before issues, so probably it was fine.
And for Fuchsia I think it should be adverse opinion if the issue wasn’t resolved and management doesn’t want to disclose cash outflow in FS. Who with me?I answered to all. Probably not all will be correct, but I hope I’ve passed this boring one:)
December 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm #108946…and it is time to repeat F9 for tomorrow now…
December 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm #108947AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I put adverse for Fuchsia as well.
Though for Daisy, I have the disclaimer of opinion because of the materiality of the issue. (also, revenue wouldn’t be affected right? I’m thinking only receivables are affected?)
Also yes, I’ll have to repeat for tomorrow’s F9. The paper I fear the most this semester ._.
December 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm #108948i think if the auditor cant find sufficient and appropriate evidence based on which they give their opinion and the matter is material, then they should say that we r unable to form an opinion. and if u remember in the question it was clearly said that the virus destroyed all the sale record, the management only know the balances without any supporting documents. so nooooo evidence….
December 6, 2012 at 2:22 pm #108949AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I put fuchsia should prepare F/S on a breaking up basis but that’s probably wrong 🙁
December 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm #108950all questions were easy.
q.no.1 was to find deficiency.
adv and disadv of CAAts
q.no.2
as usual knowledge qns. it was easy
q.no.3
audit risk and auditor’s corresponding response
q.no.4
it was toughest and trickest
audit procedures
q.no.5
audit reporting
it was easy.December 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm #108951@khanasad said:
i think if the auditor cant find sufficient and appropriate evidence based on which they give their opinion and the matter is material, then they should say that we r unable to form an opinion. and if u remember in the question it was clearly said that the virus destroyed all the sale record, the management only know the balances without any supporting documents. so nooooo evidence….disclamer of opinion is appropriate
sales revenue, receivables and profit could not be recoreded . not just one area.
for fuschita
it is adverse or qualified but i wrongly wrote it could be qualifeid or disclaimer. made mistake thereDecember 6, 2012 at 2:57 pm #108952AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@brisi81 said:
I put fuchsia should prepare F/S on a breaking up basis but that’s probably wrong 🙁i think thats right. if the issue is not resolved it is an adverse opinion in that its not a going concern
December 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm #108953For the first scenario in q5 I said that although it only related to sales and receivables, because they couldn’t verify sales the profit itself is also in doubt. On this basis it should be a disclaimer as its material and pervasive. I did also say it could be argued that it should be “except for” as well.
For the second one I said adverse opinion as the whole of the accounts have been prepared on the going concern basis when it’s clear that this is wrong from what we are told in the question.December 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm #108954AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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for the first one i put modified due to limitation of scope – disclaimer. because it was pervasive
December 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm #108955@vipin70 said:
disclamer of opinion is appropriate
sales revenue, receivables and profit could not be recoreded . not just one area.
for fuschita
it is adverse or qualified but i wrongly wrote it could be qualifeid or disclaimer. made mistake thereI am agree with this, dasiy has one opinion, but F got two. I answer all, and give opinion on audit prcedure about discuss with management about the funding, and cash flow problem.
December 6, 2012 at 3:29 pm #108956Question 5
Daisy I wrote Qualified opinion on an except for basis, it is material but not pervasive, insufficient evidence could be obtained
Oh noo it seems like I’m the only one who wrote thatFor frus I was in two minds about adverse or qualified an just wrote qualified
Q3 was an absolute disaster!!
Epic fail just not my dayDecember 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm #108957AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi Admin…
I forgot to mention the question numbers on the cover page of the answer booklet… would my script be checked or would it effect my marking??? Kindly reply…. Cheers!!December 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm #108958cud someone remind me what q5 was. I was so bloody tired cant remember
December 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm #108959AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Adverse for the second one due to the lack of disclosure in the financial statements?
I think as long as you have justified your opinion that’s the main thing anyway?
December 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm #108960farhan – don’t worry about it. Pass / fail is NOT dependent upon you filling in the front sheet correctly
December 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm #108961Daisy – auditors were able to estimate revenue from analysis of previous years, other ratios etc. If the figure from financial director was close to this estimate I would say qualified opinion as they have not audited this part but indirectly confirmed revenue. If director’s figure is miles away from what they estimated it means something with revenue, receivables, profit may be completely wrong so material and pervasive – adverse opinion.
December 6, 2012 at 5:16 pm #108962I also put Disclaimer for Daisey as both sales affected profit & loss account and receivables affected BS and therefore pervasive. For the same question, what did u guys put down for ‘other audit procedures the auditor should undertake?’ (in relation to the virus)
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