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Revaluation asset, AA and falling value

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by P2-D2.
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  • March 26, 2017 at 5:56 pm #379310
    peronapilar
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    Hi

    I’m a little bit confused with the revalution and accumulated depreciation. I know if you sell the asset or there’s an upward revaluation, you will derecognised the accumulated depreciation. But what about if there’s a fall in value of the asset?

    Example

    Asset bought 01/10/x2, value 1,000,000 amortisation 20 years VR=0
    30/09/04 revalued 1,800,000
    30/09/05 value fell 1,500,000

    Amortisation x2-x4 1,000,000/20= 50,000 *3 years= 150,000
    New amortisation X5 1,800,000/18=100,000

    Upward revaluation, we derecognise Acc depreciation
    Asset(DR) 800,000
    AA (DR) 150,000
    Rev Reserve(CR) 950,000

    Value falls do we derecognise the Acc depreciation or not?

    Rev Reserve(DR) 300,000
    Asset(CR) 300,000

    or?

    Rev Reserve(DR) 200,000
    AA (DR) 100,000
    Asset(CR) 300,000

    Could you please clarify?

    Am I right in my other assumption, if we sell the asset, or upward revaluation, we have to derecognise the acc depreciation?

    Thanks

    Pilar

    April 19, 2017 at 8:34 pm #382723
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    I’d firstly recognise the depreciation as it has been accruing during the year, so taking the asset down to 1,700,000 and then I’d adjust the value downwards, utilising the revaluation surplus first.

    If you sell the asset then any remaining surplus is transferred through profit or loss.

    You are correct on what you say too. If we revalue we remove the accumulated depreciation first and also if it is disposed of we remove the accumulated depreciation too.

    Hope you’re well.

    Thanks

    Chris

    May 17, 2017 at 7:56 pm #386710
    peronapilar
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    Hi Chris

    My last review before the exam….

    Sorry for being a nightmare, but just to confirm

    The solution is

    Dr Revaluation reserve 200,000
    Cr Asset 200,000

    Am I correct?

    I promise I will let you know if I have passed the exam….

    Thanks… muchas gracias!!!!!

    Pilar

    May 18, 2017 at 9:27 pm #386913
    P2-D2
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    Yes, if it is revalued downwards then we CR the asset and utilise the revaluation reserve so DR the revaluation reserve. If there is not enough revaluation reserve then we take any extra reduction through profit or loss.

    All the best of luck with the exam.

    Thanks

    Chris

    June 2, 2017 at 8:51 pm #389808
    peronapilar
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    Chris i have passed f1!!!!… thanks for all your help and support!!!!

    Muchísimas gracias desde España!!!!

    Pilar

    June 4, 2017 at 9:25 pm #390348
    P2-D2
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    Enhorabuena!

    That’s great news. I’m so pleased for you as you put in hours of hard work.

    I hope you enjoyed celebrating.

    Good luck with the rest of the studies and hope to hear from you in the future of F2.

    Chris

    December 3, 2018 at 2:24 pm #486950
    gmolathiwa
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    What will be happening where by we DR Asset: CR Rev Surplus

    December 17, 2018 at 6:34 pm #492141
    P2-D2
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    @gmolathiwa said:
    What will be happening where by we DR Asset: CR Rev Surplus

    Hi,

    Can you start this in a new thread and be a bit more specific with regards to your question.

    Thanks

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