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voluntary redundancy

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA SBR Exams › voluntary redundancy

  • This topic has 8 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 5 years ago by Stephen Widberg.
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  • March 28, 2020 at 5:51 pm #566061
    Toubakos
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    hi sir,

    i am a little confused about a note which referred to pension plan

    note : the pension plan will make a lump sum payment totaling $ 8 m to the employees who accept voluntary redundancy for termination of their rights under the plan. Epsilon will pay this amount into the plan on 31 January 2009. the actuaries have advised that the accumulated pension rights that this payment will extinguish have a present value of $ 7 m and this sum is unlikely to alter significantly before 31 January 2009.

    Year end 30 September 2009.

    Dr present value obligation 7 m
    Dr OCI 1 m
    Cr cash 8 m

    are these right accounting entries ? i dealt with it as a settlement.

    thank you in advance

    March 29, 2020 at 7:45 am #566075
    Stephen Widberg
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    I would have thought Dr P&L not OCI.

    Where is this question in materials? I am sure I recognise the name.

    March 29, 2020 at 3:00 pm #566096
    Toubakos
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    It’s is from practise kit on Diploma ifrs bpp.

    I debited the oci because the voluntary redundancy is on the terms of the plan. According to the book we must recognize any gain or loss in P/L only if the curtailment or the termination of the plan wasn’t in the terms of the plant.Correct me if I am wrong.

    March 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm #566097
    Toubakos
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    14 epsilon 7 acca dipifr practise & revision kit for exams 2019-2020 Bpp book

    March 30, 2020 at 6:52 am #566124
    Stephen Widberg
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    Set as exam question in 2008.

    I’ve looked at the ACCA answer which, like me, says that that the 1 goes to P&L.

    Any adjustment that sounds like past service or settlement or termination – always in P&L

    March 30, 2020 at 7:23 am #566126
    Toubakos
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    ” a settlement occurs either when an employer enters into a transaction to eliminate part or all of its post employment benefit obligation, other than a payment of benefits to or on behalf of employees under the terms of the plan and included in the actuarial assuptions”

    This paragraph is from the book of bpp and of i am not wrong the note corresponds to the second part of the paragraf. Please explain to me what is the difference in the treatment?

    March 30, 2020 at 5:09 pm #566165
    Stephen Widberg
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    Please let me know whether this is from workbook or P&R kit and give me a page number

    March 30, 2020 at 5:50 pm #566166
    Toubakos
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    This is from acca dipifr study text 2019-2020 page 160 paragraph 6.1.2

    March 31, 2020 at 2:53 pm #566249
    Stephen Widberg
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    I don’t teach the Diploma but it usually the same standard as SBR.

    The best I can do is say that it always goes to P&L and support this from the PWC website:

    A settlement is defined as ‘a transaction that eliminates all further legal or constructive obligations for part or all of the benefits provided under a defined benefit plan’ (other than benefit payments). [IAS 19 para 8]. Settlement gains or losses are recognised in the income statement when the settlement occurs. (PWC)

    So, if I was you, I would move on!

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