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trial balance & other questions

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  • This topic has 13 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • February 21, 2014 at 6:56 pm #159743
    Anonymous
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    on the trial balance its

    DR side depreciation expense and CR side Accumulated depreciation?
    only ive never seen in any of the questions a DR side dep expense

    February 22, 2014 at 9:55 am #159779
    John Moffat
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    If you look at the chapter in the course notes for Depreciation (and watch the lecture for it) you will see that the double entry for charging depreciation is always DR Depreciation Expense and CR Accumulated Depreciation.

    The expense will appear in the Statement of profit or loss, and the accumulated depreciation appears in the Statement of financial position (subtracted from the cost of the asset). However, the trial balance is prepared before closing off the accounts and so both the depreciation expense and the accumulated depreciation balances will be listed.

    March 3, 2014 at 5:27 pm #161364
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    i meant to say i didn’t know they both appeared on the trial balance!

    March 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm #161366
    John Moffat
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    Actually, I should have written in my previous post that you will not normally see depreciation expense in the trial balance.

    This is because the trial balance is usually prepared as soon as the bookkeeping is finished, and before the year end adjustments ( of which depreciation is one ) are made.

    I am sorry for not making that clear before.

    March 3, 2014 at 5:40 pm #161369
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    “depreciation is one”?

    March 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm #161370
    John Moffat
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    Depreciation is one of the adjustments that will be made after the trial balance has been prepared.

    March 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm #161372
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    so they wont adjust the expense only the accumulated depreciation side?

    March 3, 2014 at 5:51 pm #161374
    John Moffat
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    Yes they will. After the trial balance has been prepared they will then dr depn expanse and cr accumulated depn with the charge for the year.

    March 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm #161376
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    im sorry why wont I usually see it then? are you saying depreciation expense will only appear as an adjustment and not a regular entry?

    March 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm #161378
    John Moffat
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    It is a regular entry but it is done after the trial balance has been prepared (which is why it is not on the trial balance !)

    March 3, 2014 at 6:10 pm #161379
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    oh i see it will have already gone into accumulated depreciation from depreciation expense and therefore the amount included in accumulated depreciation on the right side of the trial balance?

    March 4, 2014 at 10:15 pm #161472
    John Moffat
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    The balance on the accumulated depreciation is always a credit balance and will be the total of all the previous years.

    March 5, 2014 at 12:31 pm #161502
    Anonymous
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    thanks!

    March 5, 2014 at 1:10 pm #161511
    John Moffat
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    No problem 🙂

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