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- October 2, 2017 at 6:34 am #409202AnonymousInactive
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Hello,
I am doing RAP on Boeing vs Aribus. I am calculating Profitability Ratios with ROE in it,2 liquidity ratio e.g. Current and Quick and one Gearing ratio to assess Financial. is that good to go? and i am thinking to add 2 more indurtial like deliveries and orders?
Another question is that i am copying and paste the reference if i have to give a reference. Is that acceptable? or do have to change to wordings as well?
October 2, 2017 at 10:42 am #409222We already have a topic thread for Topic 8 period 35 so this new thread that you have opened will be closed and transferred to the existing forum. You are reminded not to open a new thread unless absolutely necessary as it is better to have all relevant queries under the same thread (Please see ‘Help keep our forum tidy!!!!).
You should therefore read through some of the answers on that thread as I discuss the importance of understanding how profits are calculated in this business and stage payments, as well as the way WIP is calculated. Good that you are looking at order books and deliveries as this will add strength to your analysis.
Include some investor ratios as well as gearing.
Regarding referencing: it is important that you read the ‘Open Tuition Ultimate Guide to Referencing your RAP’ (especially the ‘Golden Rules’). This can be found on our homepage http://www.opentuition.com/obu and will answer 99% of any referencing queries
October 2, 2017 at 10:48 am #409225@accagunner -sorry I missed your earlier query (I have been on holiday) – yes pick out the main impact reasons -the importance of analysis is to summarise the significant as if you go into minute detail it will produce a tedious report. The reader needs to be focused towards the material and not lots of tiny details.
Regarding your second query – I do not recognise most of your abbreviations (note if I don’t understand them then a marker is also likely to struggle) so can’t advise until you explain their meaning in full.
October 2, 2017 at 1:47 pm #4092401.Regarding the second query by accagunner , here are the full form of the abbreviations:
RevPAR: Revenue Per Available Room
ADR: Average Daily Rate (of the rooms)RevPar is a combination of Occupancy Rate and ADR, and these three are important KPI’s for the hotel industry. I reframe ‘gunner’s’ query: Does RevPar require a separate analysis, when we’ve already done for Occupancy Rate and ADR?
2.You had mentioned that we have to analyze the annual reports for 4 years and not just 3. Why is that so? Should I show the evidence of analysis of the 4th year as well?
October 3, 2017 at 4:14 pm #409344Thanks @trephena for your reply.
Sorry i should have clarified they are key ratios/KPIs in hotel industry RevPAR=revenue per available room and ADR= average daily rate.
I’m facing another issue I’m confused regarding the cost reimbursement figure.
For hotels that Marriott manages for the owners, they reimburse marriott costs incurred these are shown in revenue and the same figure is shown as cost and deducted from the revenue to get operating income.
Even though this does affect operating income but it does affect operating margin ratio as the size of the numerator and denominator is changing.
So my question is should i analyze this figure as it makes 90% of the revenue and costs and for all three years and for Net profit and operating profit margin this would end up the reason.
I had decided that i would just mention it a little in reason for sales increase but ignore its impact on OP and NP ratios,but im worried that i might be wrong.
Best Regards.
October 3, 2017 at 4:48 pm #409351I must say Part 3 being the heart and core of the project is really quite challenging.
Trephena couldn’t have stressed and emphasized better the importance of analysis and evaluation. https://opentuition.com/obu/tackle-evaluation-analysis-rap-part-1/
A proper investigation of why the ratios move in a certain manner is mandatory in order to get a pass and also to make the project more interesting for the candidate plus the examiner.
It’s a joy seeing Trephena connect the dots and identifies the patterns between news announcements and resulting changes in figures. It’s very inspiring and stimulating and I wish to do the same in my project.
I don’t want my project to be a messy jumble of figures, which makes the head spin and is so tasteless and dull. I want it be thriving with interesting information and inter-connected reasons.
But, it’s so haaard! I’m not able to pick up reasons from the Annual Reports or from the media.
I’ve informed my mentor of my issues and being positive that with his guidance I can improve my approach.
October 4, 2017 at 12:18 pm #409427@trephena – OBU have responded to my query mentioned in my earlier post.
Dear ….
Thank you for your email.
I appreciate that it may be difficult to find a company which completely meets the criteria. Some of the aerospace companies are also involved in defence. However, as long as the main activity of the company is manufacturing aircraft, that will be ok. Similarly, some food companies also produce beverages; as long as the principal activity is food production, they will be acceptable. Some students are choosing hotels/resorts which are also casinos. If the industry classification (not necessarily ICB), shows the company as ‘Hotels’, they will be acceptable.
Good luck with your work.
Yours sincerely
Shirley PowellACCA BSc (Hons) in Applied Accounting Office
Oxford Brookes Business School
Oxford Brookes University,
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Oxford OX3 0BP, UKOctober 5, 2017 at 5:04 am #409501Hi Trephena,
Due to marriott’s policy of repurchasing shares its equity was negative in 2015 and 2014 due to high treasury cost.
So when i’m calculating gearing the ratio is negative, i’m not sure how to go forward with this kindly advise.
Best Regards.
October 5, 2017 at 6:56 am #409504AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Should i also add graphs and chart in excel sheet of Appendices? For example increase in revenues has to be shown in graph or chart. In word when i insert a chart it open another new excel sheet to change or edit the data and change name of series 1 , Series 2. But Do i have to show this in excel as well? or in the word document its ok?
Also Boeing and Airbus are Aircraft manufacturing. They also manufacture Helicopters and space shuttle. So Are they acceptable. I will be commenting on all of their segment revenue.
October 5, 2017 at 3:59 pm #409543hello Trephena,
Kindly guide me whether a specific point could be used in two models e.g shown as a threat in the SWOT analysis and as a threat to entry in Porter’s five forces.
October 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm #409544hello Trephena,
Kindly guide me whether a specific point could be used in two models e.g shown as a threat in the SWOT analysis and as a threat to entry in Porter’s five forces.
Kindly reply a soon as possible
October 6, 2017 at 5:34 am #409607Good Morning Trephena
I am analysing the Profitability of Airbus and Boeing. I have done much of the work but need guidance with the Gearing ratio. I am looking to find the reasons why(drivers) gearing has been increasing but cant find this information on their financials.
Your advise will be highly appreciated.
October 6, 2017 at 9:08 am #409624@dhillon – whether you choose consolidated or financial statements at a company level you have to be consistent for both main company and comparator. Often it may be possible to do do some segmental analysis with sales etc. as you suggest.
As I have tried to impress upon students: it is important to do a good business analysis and link the factors from this to the financial analysis. Too often there is too much fixation with calculations whereas the direction and strategic focus of the company lies behind most of what has actually driven financial performance (this is particularly so with the aerospace companies ).
October 6, 2017 at 9:22 am #409629@ami12 – You have misunderstood why you do a PEST. The purpose is to understand the business environment the companies operate in as it will influence management policies and decisions (as well as the SWOT). Yes the PEST will be the same but It is how the companies have built on favourable factors from the business environment that is important.
Always start Part 3 with the application of models and use the factors from them along with the CEO /directors reports and any other useful information from the Investor Relations section of the company website, when examining the trends to identify what has driven performance
October 6, 2017 at 9:31 am #409630@trephena So should I talk about how both the companies have responded to environmental change under PEST and SWOT or just my main company?
October 6, 2017 at 2:10 pm #409660Good Morning Trephena
I am analysing the Profitability of Airbus and Boeing. I have done much of the work but need guidance with the Gearing ratio. I am looking to find the reasons why(drivers) gearing has been increasing but cant find this information on their financials.
Your advise will be highly appreciated.
October 8, 2017 at 10:39 am #409840Hi,
I have decided to do Topic 8 for the submission period 36. I will be using a company from the Hotel industry Marriott Hotels with a comparator Hilton Hotels, seems reasonable to me as both of these are the closeted rivals to each other, not sure whether I should use industry performance as well though.
My approach i think will be starting with the business valuation assessing the external factors, the competitiveness in the market, portfolio analysis, value creation for competiveness and then summarise all this in a SWOT.
Then for the financial valuation i will use year on year performance and ration analysis (not sure if i can perform a stock valuation if that is also required)
One last think i am concerned with is the timing period for which i need to do the valuation. The information pack says (i need to use the most resent three years financial statements available at the start of the submission period) so if i am submitting in May-18 do i need to use the financial statements from 2017 as i can see that Marriott Hotels will publish the annual accounts for 2017 in March-18.October 10, 2017 at 10:34 am #410166@trephena I have gone with hotels and my target company is Las Vegas sands Corp. and the comparator company is MGM Resorts Intl. Can I go ahead with them ? Kindly advise.
October 10, 2017 at 2:27 pm #410194Hi Trephena,
I really need your help.
I’ve been able to squeeze only 9 ratios , 6 financial and 3 hotel related, but now I’m worried that my ratios are few in “quantity”, and im thinking whether to merge my 3 hotel ratios into one and do another financial ratio but then I’d have total of 8 ratios only. Is having few ratios in quantity a negative?
Kindly help me.
Best RegardsOctober 10, 2017 at 6:14 pm #410247IMPORTANT NOTICE FROM TREPHENA
As I have said many times already on this thread I do NOT have much knowledge about individual companies and therefore CANNOT advise on your choice of companies. Ensure that they are within the trade sectors listed in the Information Pack, research some possibilities and discuss your selection with your mentor.
My expertise lies in the APRROACH to the RAP e.g. how to address evaluation and analysis. I am happy to assist with queries on this and how to do a reasonable analysis but I repeat, I cannot offer advice about specific companies.
October 11, 2017 at 7:11 pm #410414I am planning to take the hotel industry. Either Hilton vs marriot or Marriot vs hyatt. Any suggestion. I have not found enough resources yet except the annual reports.
October 14, 2017 at 9:19 pm #411019AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi,
I know i am kinda late but I wanted to compare Boeing and Airbus for topic 8 but the problem is Boeing is reporting in GAAP while Airbus reports are in IFRS. Can I use these for comparison. The next big aerospace company is Bombardier but Gap between revenue and size of business is quite large such as Boeing revenue is around 100 billion while Bombardier is 35 billion. Kindly advise. Quick response will be appreciated. 🙂
October 16, 2017 at 10:29 am #411782I know that our recommended mentors at the Learning Luminarium advise against using companies that operate under different reporting standards. However I can’t help feeling as this further restricts choice for the current industry sectors that OBU itself will not discourage it provided it is approached appropriately.
Obviously it is a serious limitation of the data when making comparisons however this is only part of the analysis and good application of the models in these circumstances is even more important.
So you would need to state this problem as a serious limitation but ensure that you really do try to get behind the ratios to understand what has affected the trends (i.e. the factors from the business analysis and models, strategic decisions) rather than just relying on ratios. Also restate any limitations in any particular figures you have presented if the treatment from reporting rules may have influenced the outcome so that you do your best to present a ‘level playing field’.
October 16, 2017 at 7:16 pm #411996Dear @Trephena,
I need help regarding market share of boeing and airbus, can you help me with any useful link? and secondly boeing is us based while airbus is european, how am i going to address the market share?? Should i comment on global? or separately? like Boeing share in US A&D industry and Airbus share in European?
Further my mentor emphasized to use Porter five forces and SWOT analysis in case of Boeing and Airbus, as he said “this will be very suitable because all the forces can be easily discussed.
Need help
October 20, 2017 at 11:30 am #412581Yes the Information Pack does say with regard to financial statements the latest 3 years. It also tells you that you are not expected to include any financial statements that have been published within 90 days of the submission period opening i. e. before 1 Feb 2018 for P36.
If however you wish to include the statements published in March 2018 then you may do so but there is no compulsion.
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