December 2, 2014 at 8:11 pm
Margret – I suggest that you look at our homepage:
and read some of the articles there, particularly those on the Resubmission Statement and Evaluation & Analysis as well as the FAQs and Marker Speak.
We already have a Topic 13 forum which has some good suggestions for how to approach this particular topic so I also suggest that you read through that (Note as I am trying to rationalise the number of topics we have open I shall be posting your query to our existing forum Topic 13 – How HR function contributes to the achievement of business and financial objectives).
The advice and information you find from these should help you understand why you failed and give you some idea of how to successfully address T13December 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Thank you so much guys,i think I should get started on my resubmission work now.June 25, 2015 at 4:36 pm
@trephna I am a returning student, unfortunately I had to retake paper f9 and I am now starting my RAP I have decided to do topic 13. I have some questions. Do I need primary data or could I used secondary data for this topic? Can I have an idea as to how to bring this topic across as best as possible. I really want to pass!June 25, 2015 at 6:13 pm
@lizphil – First if you haven’t already done so read all the posts on here as they can sometimes be enlightening (and it saves me having to repeat anything too! 🙂 )
The main problem you have to avoid is just describing what the HR function does and concluding it does a good job. You have to fill the gap between these two elements. If you have good reliable secondary data obtained from the company then no you wouldn’t necessarily have to do primary research yourself.
However you would have to provide some objective evidence to support your findings. So you need to show a relationship between how the HR department functions and the business and finance objectives by using some key data. This might be a combination of the following: staff turnover figures, absenteeism rates, any relevant data that the company has collected regarding staff motivation/ training. Are you proposing to use the company you work in or some other company? They may be prepared to let you have some internal information of this kind. There may be confidentiality issues so you need to clear this first. (In fact with prior permission from OBU you may be allowed to submit the organisation as an anonymous company, however you would have to provide the raw data you have relied on – otherwise it could all be a work of fiction). So perhaps you need to think about how you can get some data to work from first.
It does not necessarily involve a lot of financial data but the trend in profit per employee (if you have staff numbers) could indicate some measure of how successful the HR function is.
You may be able to show how good the company is in terms of employees as stakeholders (profit sharing, equal opportunity, company benefits etc) but this of itself will not be enough as you have to introduce some critical thought and some original analysis of your own. One way of introducing analysis / critical thought into this is if you can benchmark the organisation against best practice. Try to get your hands on some HR journals or relevant articles (take a look at Google Scholar – many journals require a subscription and the articles can be expensive to download individually but the tip here is to put the author’s name and title of the article in another search and see if there is an item on the right – a pdf or html file that you can download FOC). By reading the abstracts you may find that you are able to pick up a few ideas and hints on which areas to explore further.
I found this for example on GS by using the search “measuring effectiveness of HR function”
(There were several articles go take a look as they may be able to give you more ideas than I can!) Don’t forget to keep links and names of articles as it will (a) save time from hunting for them again and (b) if used they will need to be referenced
If you cannot get your hands on good secondary data you would need to consider how you can fulfil the brief for T13. Probably primary data is the only alternative.August 29, 2015 at 9:23 am
Hi Trephena. i have a problem with referencing my work, especially with information gotten from the primary sources, for example interview to human resource personnel, sales personnels too. so i am kind of confused on how to go about it.
will be grateful if you help me.
working on topic 13August 29, 2015 at 1:10 pm
@chickcynthia – a T13 RAP is about building up a case that demonstrates the relationship between the organisation’s HR function and its key objectives.
As you are using predominantly primary data you should first be aware of the requirements (see Prof Phil Clarke’s article in the Info Pack). You need to ensure that any questionnaires or interviews are really focused on the company objectives and that questions asked are well structured. You must provide a copy of the questionnaire and interview questions in your Appendices and a summary of the raw data from any survey.
In Part 2 you should set out who you interviewed (job title and any particular experience /qualifications they have e.g Ms Amin, who has been the head of HR for 5 years and has a diploma / degree in Management studies). When you cite any interviewee comments put their name and year after it e.g. (Amin, 2015) in the text and list this in the Ref list together with her full name, position and date of interview(s).
With questionnaires you need to understand the fundamentals of conducting a good survey and set out all the details in part 2 -how many people were surveyed, how they were selected, how many questionnaires were distributed etc. . Do NOT make up the data -it is so obvious when students fiddle the figures.
More objective evidence is usually better than primary data – so actual company data is preferred, so I suggest you try to include as much of this as possible and not overly rely on a questionnaire Your conclusions need to demonstrate a strong link to the evidence. If any questionnaire is poor and you have used this a lot then your chances of passing the Evaluation, Analysis & Conclusions will be slim. For this reason I advise students not to do questionnaires and surveys unless they spend a lot of time in perfecting the questions and ensuring they are clearly linked and structured to the project title… otherwise markers will tear the whole thing to shreds!August 31, 2015 at 9:35 am
Thank You very much for your reply. its greatly of help.September 1, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Hi Trephena, As regards your advice on how i reference my work from interview of human resource personnel, Per my ethical reasons , disclosing a personnel’s name , level of qualification and experience is a confidential information and should not be disclosed. And also, it was a difficult task for me to convince the Human resource personnel that the information was just for the purpose of my research project.
So i went to the 2009 information pack and i got some inside on how to reference my work as per the interview of the human resource personnel.
I will still be happy getting more insight from you regarding this topic .September 1, 2015 at 3:26 pm
@chickcynthia -why are you using the 2009 Information Pack???? You need to use the one applicable to your submission period i.e. the latest 2015/2016 version. You may have a problem as I believe now you may have to provide certification on company headed paper and signed by a senior manager to prove that the interview took place. Check with the OBU Office but I don’t think they will accept anonymous interviews.
As far as OBU is concerned students have a choice of 20 topics and therefore they must take into account the full requirements as set out in the relevant Info Pack. If you cannot comply with these then you should choose a company or topic which fits in with the Rules.
See the following discussions on this particular problem as other students have also experienced difficulties with markers and the acceptance and validity of primary data. With the first the posts to and from Sajanth and me are very relevant to you as this student was failed for NOT providing adequate details of interviewsSeptember 2, 2015 at 10:38 am
Thank You very much. Its of great help.March 23, 2016 at 1:25 pm
Hi Trephena; I feel very discouraged and feel like giving up.
This is my second attempt but i was awarded a failed grade;
The first time my results were referred ACO and i was advised to take a different topic and case study.
So i did as they said and this time around submitted chapter 13 and i worked very hard to get a pass but i was not awarded a pass.
Here is the moderators last comment
“You have obviously put a lot of effort into this project. You have the basis of a pass project but will need to remove some of the detailed analysis of compensation systems and replace it with more analysis of other important HR activities”
The business models you have selected aren’t sufficiently relevant to Topic 13. Your objectives 2. and 3. require a review of the main HR activities, which would normally be HR planning, recruitment and selection, training and development, and reward systems management. Your questionnaire covers most of these topics but your discussion of business models in Part 2 of the report doesn’t. Force field analysis could be applicable if you considered a wider range of factors influencing staff retention. The ‘Likert Scale’ isn’t a business model.
You have applied your business models in the design of your questionnaire but the analysis of the research findings needs at least some of the business models referred to in 1. above.
To strengthen the analysis and evaluation, you must apply business models to the analysis and evaluation of information gathered from your primary and secondary sources of information . As explained below in Section 6 below,you need to include more secondary data on a wider range of HR activities for this topic.
You will need to collect more secondary data on the HR policies and practices of the organisation you are studying. Also much more referencing of theory is needed in the analysis of your research findings (Section 3.2)
The only thing i can think of now is crying and how hurting the results are.
But i really need help now since i have just one last attemptFebruary 3, 2017 at 5:03 pm
Is this forum still active because I’m doing topic 13 and i may need some help?February 4, 2017 at 9:35 am
@tatie – yes I keep most of our topic forums open because the advice for most still applies and I do not have the time to repeat my advice. I suggest if you haven’t already done so that you read all the posts on here and my articles on Evaluation and Referencing on our homepage http://www.opentuition.com/obu
You will need to research an appropriate model that suits your organisationFebruary 16, 2017 at 8:39 pm
I am facing some challenges with justifying my reason for choosing the topic in part 1. Do i answer this part in general or there is a certain way of answering that is expected?February 16, 2017 at 9:55 pm
Don’t get hung up on this. Part 3 analysis is far more important. Answer Part 1 briefly and move on. As I have said elsewhere when it comes to the report the marker doesn’t really give a fig about why you chose the topic. Save this if you want for the SLS 🙂February 17, 2017 at 6:28 pm
Thanks a lot. I was beginning to lose sleep over it.February 18, 2017 at 7:01 am
I was chatting with a friend of mine and she mentioned that I may need to have a comparing company to assist in my evaluation. Is this really necessary for Topic 13?February 18, 2017 at 7:48 am
@tatie – no you do not need a comparator for T13 but you do need access to good inside information. You will have to start with establishing the company’s objectives. You then have to have some good information about HR policies, methods and procedures. These are likely to relate to how it recruits, trains, motivates and retains the best staff it can.
Staff turnover figures, possibly by department would be helpful. Financial information relating to revenue / profit per employee will be some of the objective measures required. Look through here to see if you can find models mentioned in a post. You can possibly use the balanced scorecard.
Overall though you need a good structure to your report. Lots of RAPs fail because they are poorly structured and throw lots of theory at the reader and follow this with insubstantial evidence relating to their company (vague statements, sweeping comments unsupported by evidence) presented in almost a random way. The evaluation and analysis needs to be strong with valid facts, obvious links to the company’s objectives set out so that the whole thing is coherent, logical and makes proper sense as a whole.
Unless you work in the organisation and they will let you have access to company handbooks and policies and other inside information you are unlikely to be able to do this topic successfully (as I explained on page 1 of this forum to Alfred).February 20, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Thanks a lot for the response. My other question will be on the business models. Is the value chain analysis a good model to use in my evaluation. For example let’s say the objective is to increase sales, can I use the value chain to determine the role played by each department and try to draw a conclusion on the contribution made by HR functions?
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