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- May 19, 2017 at 4:37 pm #386890
I do not know why i can not post question here
Hi my DEAR and GREAT TUTOR, I really confuse when i face these two ratios.
the question has been taken from Bpp test bank page number 76 and 77
Could you please explain it in-depth, because it is important for me
By the way i have exam on June 6th
Woodbank’s p/l at 31 MArch 20×4
20X4
Under P/L
Revenue -150000
cost of sales-117000
GP-33000
finance cost-1750
Profit before tax-16250Equity-80000
RE-15000
Non-current liability-55000(5000 belong to woodbank without shaw when acquired Shaw 50million loan note is added over 5000 which became 55000)total-150000
On 1 January 20X4, Woodbank purchased the trading assets and operations of Shaw for $50 million and, on the same date, issued extra 10%loan notes to finance purchase.
Shaw p/l 31 March 20X4
Revenue-30000
cost of sales-(21000)
GP-9000
Distribution Cost-(2000)
Administrative Expense (2000)if i put here 5000 finance cost it will be zero
Without Shaw
18000-5000(loan note interest when acquired shaw)/95000+5000(55000 loan note-50000 loan note took for Shaw acquisition)*100%=13%Coming to the next example, the question has been taken from bpp page number 198 mock exam 2
Harbin 20×7
P/L
Revenue-250000
cost of sales-(200000)
GP-50000
Operating expenses-(26000)
Finance cost-(8000)
Pofit before tax-16000
income tax (25%)-4000-20×6(2000)2000+4000=6000*25%=1500
6000-1500=5500Equity-100000
RE-14000
Non-current liability-100000Harbin purchased fatima for $100million, financed by the issue of $ 100,000 8% loan notes.
fatima p/l
Revenue-70000
cost of sales-40000
GP-30000
Operating expense-8000
profit before tax-22000Without Shaw
18000-5000(PBIT) (loan note interest when acquired shaw)/95000+5000(55000 loan note-50000 loan note took for Shaw acquisition)*100%=13%In the first example, the company’s has not had profit before tax amount, probably it was zero if we add 5000 under p/l of shaw , that is why only 5000 deducted from profit before and tax amount.
Without Fatima
profit before tax=(16000+8000)=24000-22000=(2000)/250000-70000*100%=1.1%in the second example, fatima had 22000 profit before tax that is why it deducted from
or it could be solved in another way 22000 profit before tax -interest 8000 of fatima=14000
then deduct it from only profit before tax of Harbin 16000-14000=2000
in both case it will give 2000
comparing these two examples did i get it right?
When i find ROCE
Without fatima
16000+8000=24000-22000/”114000-(22000-5500)”*100%”114000-(22000-5500)”-i did not understand this part?
Without Shaw
ROCE
150000-30000/150000-50000 loan note -i uderstood this part but the above.
May 19, 2017 at 9:02 pm #387058I’m not sure what your question is here!
It would be easier (for both you and for me) if you were to give me a question name and / or an examination reference and then spell out very clearly exactly what your question is
Let’s try that with this one and save me having to try and piece together your posted figures!
May 29, 2017 at 7:56 am #388695You never came back to me on this thread – I left it open for 10 days but clearly you didn’t want to.
In fact, as I remember, you posted the whole thing again on a new thread so I’m now closing this one
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