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Terminal loss and trading loss

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  • This topic has 4 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by faisal892.
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  • November 26, 2016 at 3:29 pm #351684
    faisal892
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    Hi,

    I know that terminal loss is the loss for last 12 months of trade. Let say that terminal loss is 20000 and trading loss in last six months of trade of an unincorporated business is 5000. How to relieve these losses?

    I am confused that which loss to relieve terminal or trading.

    November 26, 2016 at 5:05 pm #351700
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    Terminal losses can be offset vs trading profits of the business in the year of cessation (usually nil) and the 3 preceding tax years starting with the last year (lifo). As you mentioned, terminal losses are calculated in a special way, you need to learn the rule.

    The alternative is to offset the trading loss (including the overlaps profits of the opening years) incurred in the year of cessation vs general income of the current and/or preceding year.
    You should watch the OT F6 lectures on this topic, they are really clear. Also try the q 06/13 Spike, if you have it in your revision kit.

    November 26, 2016 at 5:36 pm #351705
    faisal892
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    Thanks. I know the rules for offsetting losses but i am still confused. If there is a terminal loss and trading loss as well in the last year of trading how to deal with those? If we offset trading loss first and then terminal loss then i believe that it will be doubling o loss which is relieved.

    I have tried the Spike question but i am still not clear.

    November 26, 2016 at 7:22 pm #351715
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    The terminal loss relief is an alternative to the normal loss relief vs general income.
    HMRC tries to help businesses that are ceasing to trade at a loss by extending the timeframe during wich the loss can be offset.

    If however, you decide to use the normal relief (vs general income of current and/or previous period) then there would be no terminal loss relief available.

    If you claim the terminal loss relief and the actual trading loss (including overlaps) is higher than the terminal loss then you can still offset the difference using the normal relief, as explained above.
    This point is explained brilliantly by the Tax Tutor in this lecture: https://opentuition.com/acca/f6/terminal-loss-relief/

    November 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm #351716
    faisal892
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    Thank you very much.

    Faisal

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