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Switching to P7

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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • January 23, 2017 at 8:19 pm #369096
    rkoli
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    Hi,

    I’m currently about to start studying for P6, but there are no open tuition notes which I’ve used in every exam and they have helped greatly.
    I’m considering switching to P7.
    Do you think 6 weeks study with OT notes is enough material and time?

    Thanks

    Roshan

    January 24, 2017 at 9:07 am #369224
    MikeLittle
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    You most certainly need a revision kit / exam kit from a reputable publisher

    watch the videos, read the course notes (2 hours from start to finish – just read like you would a novel) and then start reading the revision kit

    Whilst you’re waiting for the revision kit to arrive, download 2 or 3 exams’ worth of q’s and a’s from the ACCA past papers and read those

    The key here (at least until 20th February or thereabouts) is just endless reading, reading, reading

    Over and over again

    You should get through a revision kit at least 3 times from start to finish, through the lecture videos at least once per week and the course notes at least 5 times per fortnight

    Around 20th February, post again for the next (and final) bit of advice

    And, whenever you hit a problem, post here and I shall get back to you

    OK?

    January 24, 2017 at 1:46 pm #369291
    rkoli
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    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for your reply.

    I’ve got the P6 complete txt and revision kit, but the complete text had 1200 pages which has put me off with the amount of time left.

    Would you recommend I do what you said above and read till 20th Feb?

    With work and family commitments I can manage 2hrs a day and some weekends longer.

    Thanks

    January 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm #369298
    MikeLittle
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    Why are you now talking about P6? May I presume that you mean P7?

    Put your study text for P7 in a dark corner of the garden shed and lock it away

    Accept that there is no way on this Earth that you are ever going to read 1,200 pages of rivetting theoretical auditing. It’s not happened, it is not happening and it is most certainly not going to happen … so forget it

    Now re-read my last post and get started on P7

    Just a word of warning – make sure that you enter for P7 UK if you harbour any ambitions at all of practicing as an accountant / auditor in the UK (for as long as Scotland remains within the UK the current ACCA rules will apply North of the border)

    Can you do it in time for the March exam?

    I don’t know – it depends on your receptiveness to learning new stuff but, to be honest, much of the secret to passing P7 is an ability to apply common sense and to have an open and imaginative mind

    Get into a revision kit and let your imagination take you wherever it wants you to follow

    January 24, 2017 at 2:25 pm #369305
    rkoli
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    Hi Mike,

    Sorry I do have P6 books, but due to the volume of P6 Taxation I was considering switching to P7 auditing. Still not sure, going to have a think about it.
    I have passed P1,P3 and P5 recently and I think I’m better with theory so thats why I was considering the switch.
    Thanks for your help.

    January 24, 2017 at 9:10 pm #369377
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    No problem – if you should decide on P7, you know where I am if you need me

    January 26, 2017 at 1:22 pm #369719
    rkoli
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    Hi Mike,

    I’m going to switch and do P7.

    I’ve printed of the open tuition course notes.

    They say international version and I will be doing UK version. Does this matter?

    Should I now read the course notes again and again until I get a revision kit?

    I work full time and have a family.

    I can manage two hours study every night.

    Thanks

    Roshan

    January 26, 2017 at 2:01 pm #369747
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, read course notes as often as you can face it!

    As a way of breaking up that monotony (and the monotony of the video lectures) you could also sensibly make a start into past exam q’s and a’s by downloading from the internet

    January 26, 2017 at 2:39 pm #369753
    rkoli
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    OK, should I read a chapter along with the video lecture for the chapter?

    Also how far back in years should I get past papers?

    Do you think I have enough time to study to Match 17 or should I wait til June 17?

    Is the international version ok to use even if I do UK version?

    thanks

    January 26, 2017 at 3:22 pm #369771
    MikeLittle
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    The difference between international and UK versions is because of the UK’s reluctance to embrace fully the International Financial Reporting Standards

    You could download a recent exam for both variants and compare the questions and answers

    I understand that the UK variant does not show the sub-division of the marks that is shown within the International variant – I cannot imagine why!

    I continue to maintain that P7 is a common sense exam that requires immense self-discipline (sticking rigidly to appropriate time allocation) and examination technique

    Can you do that? Are you an imaginative person? Are you able to bring life’s experiences into examination answers? Are you a logical person? Would you say that you routinely apply common sense to everyday situations that you face? Do you structure / plan answers to written questions (as distinct from computational questions)?

    If you can tick all those boxes, there’s no reason to suggest that P7 would lie beyond your capabilities

    How far back? As far as you feel inclined to! There’s no optimal number and I only suggested past papers were appropriate until you got hold of a revision kit

    Do you have enough time to prepare for a March exam? You mention 2 hours per day. Does that include reading past q’s and a’s when you’ve gone to bed until your eyes fall down and the revision kit slips off the duvet?

    This time question is unanswerable – sorry. It depends upon your individual receptiveness in combination with all sorts of other variables but if you read comments after the results are posted, it’s not unusual to read some that typically say “55% first time Whoooo-hooo! And I only spent 4 days preparing for it”

    Equally, it’s also the case that there will be others that say “I can’t clear this exam. Failed again with 36%. I don’t know what to do – that’s my 6th time”

    Reading is the key rather than trying to ‘learn’ or memorise – just read.

    You can get through the course notes in around 2 hours and you can listen to the video lectures (there’s not much to actually see on the screen) whilst looking after your family – I get the impression that your family is young and demanding of your time, but I could be so wrong.

    If I am wrong and you have said in an earlier post that “I work full time and have a family” then you need to be persuading your partner to take over some (or all) of the household duties whilst you prepare for P7. Even if that only saves you 1 hour each day, that’s a 50% improvement on your current situation

    Go for it!

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