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Substantive procedures

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA AAA Exams › Substantive procedures

  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 4 years ago by Kim Smith.
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  • March 24, 2021 at 3:42 pm #615131
    aadil1234
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    Sir in the exam I came across a scenario which mentioned about the damage caused to a timber plantation due to a storm resulting in a decrease of $70m in Fair value of timber plantation. The carrying amount of timber plantation was $500m but after the disaster the FV of timber plantation was reduced to $430m. The valuation of FV of $430m was carried out by experts.

    The Question asked me to recommend substantive procedures on the damage caused by the storm and also on the valuation of Fair value of timber plantation by experts and the Question carried 6 marks. So I recommended the following procedures mentioned below.

    1. Review damage report to assess the
    damage caused to timber plantation.

    2. To physically verify the damage to
    timber plantation, visit the site of
    damage.

    3. Discuss with experts the method and
    rationale behind the valuation of
    timber plantation to verify its
    resonableness.

    4. Obtain the valuation of timber
    plantation done by the experts and
    revalue it using auditors own
    methodology.

    5. Review market data to verify fair value
    of timber plantation of $430m.

    6. Review FAR to verify Carrying value of
    timber plantation and compare it with
    F.V to verify impairment of $70m.

    *So Can you tell me that are these procedures correct or are some of them or all of them incorrect?

    March 25, 2021 at 7:48 am #615165
    Kim Smith
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    I am sorry but OT does not have the resources to offer a marking service – and it would open floodgates to similar requests if I was to assess your suggested points.

    Whether the points you wrote in the exam are “correct” will be judged by the marker in the light of the precise wording of the requirement and the details provided in the scenario – details that are not available as Qs from the March 2021 exam have not (yet) been published.

    I will however comment on a couple of your points – in 3. by what means will you “verify reasonableness”? If by comparison with a market value/something published this needs to be combined with the idea in point 5 which, as it stands, is too vague. What is this “market data” and how will a “review” confirm the FV of a plantation in its entirety at such an amount? Since the purpose of the timber plantation is presumably the commercial sale of timber, the value of the plantation will presumably reflect the market price of timber (which you can reasonably guess might have a price index). In 6 – a marker should not have to guess what is “FAR”.

    March 25, 2021 at 8:46 am #615173
    aadil1234
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    Thank you sir, I understand your point here about the marking service and You mentioned some issues in point no.3, 5 & 6.

    In point no 3. I meant the resonableness of assumptions taken by experts in valuing the fair value of timber plantation, I wrote the word assumption in my procedure in the exam.

    In point no. 5, I meant the market data like you mentioned the price index of timber.

    In Point no 6 from abbreviation “FAR” I meant fixed asset register.

    And sir do you find any issue or vagueness in point 1,2 & 4?

    March 25, 2021 at 9:53 am #615176
    Kim Smith
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    I have nothing to add – it is not possible to comment on the relevance of the other points in the absence of further details – which I am not asking you to provide. You should put this behind you – nothing I say can make any difference to your mark.

    March 25, 2021 at 10:14 am #615178
    aadil1234
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    Ok sir Thank you 🙂

    March 25, 2021 at 10:19 am #615179
    Kim Smith
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    You’re welcome!

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