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Substantive procedures

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 4 years ago by Kim Smith.
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  • December 13, 2020 at 2:48 am #599761
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    if a substantive procedure relates to valuation and in my answer i have written this substantive procedure verifies accuracy , valuation and allocation . So will i get marks.

    If a substantive procedure relates to accuracy, completeness , cut off etc , so is it necessary to write that it verifies accuracy , completeness , cut off etc or can i write only completeness is verified. will i get marks if i only write one assertions for a substantive procedure that contains more than one assertion

    December 13, 2020 at 8:05 am #599774
    Kim Smith
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    Q1 – yes – you will see this in some ACCA answers – “accuracy, valuation and allocation” is a collective assertion. But equally you won’t get penalised for just writing valuation (!)

    Q2 – you should be as selective as possible and really think whether one procedure really satisfies 3 assertions – you are getting 1 mark for a relevant substantive procedure with a relevant assertion – so although “accuracy and completeness” are often satisfied together, cut-off is an assertion for transactions and “bi-directional” (i.e. either side of the year end) – whereas completeness is “uni-directional” (i.e. looking for understatement).

    For example – matching GDNs and sales invoices (or GRNs and purchase invoices) is a cut-off procedure but does not concern monetary amounts so cannot satisfy the assertion of accuracy.

    December 13, 2020 at 3:40 pm #599827
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    discuss with management the rationale for change in revaluation ,is which assertion?

    December 13, 2020 at 3:55 pm #599830
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    I don’t think “discuss” is a very good substantive procedure (internal/oral evidence) – rather a response to an identified risk to get a better understanding of the risk of material misstatement.

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