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Again Trephena,
The screenshots are conversation I had with my mentor on viber. I also want to send these conversations as screenshots to the ACO. Is it OK to send this as screenshots? Your thought please.Trephena,
My results were witheld in the last OBU period 32 submission. I received ACO letter requesting me to send him all the evidences in conducting my RAP,. I want to send the viber conversation with my mento to the ACO. These are not emails but questions and comments on some aspects of the RAP. I also want to send these conversations as screenshots to the ACO. Is it OK to send this as screenshots? Your thought please.Yes send anything that supports your case -earlier drafts of the report and SLS, notes on research and any communication with the mentor.
Hi, I have received the similar email stating that there is a 5% match with some other RAP but she didnot send me the turnitin report.
Shall I send an acknowledgment response for her email?
She is expecting drafts, emails from mentor and all
The drafts is in word format where I use to change on my RAPs and luckily saved some word files.
Shall I send them?
Normally you get a Turnitin report unless the matches are insignificant. Yes send an acknowledgement and query whether you should have a copy of the Turnitin report.
Collate your evidence and then send copies of earlier drafts and any evidence of research (earlier bibliography where you listed sources some of which you used and some you may not have used). Normally you would have produced copies of the report at various stages of its development -that’s what they want to see.
Hi @trephena,
I am sure 5% counts as an insignificant percent. While drafting a response, shall I mention that I have run SLS and RAP on turnitin and the plagiarism is only on the headings only?
Or Shall i just email them querying about if they will provide me the turnitin report?
Thanks
I am sure 5% counts as an insignificant percent. While drafting a response, shall I mention that I have run SLS and RAP on turnitin and the plagiarism is only on the headings only?
Or Shall i just email them querying about if they will provide me the turnitin report?
Thanks
@Trephena, Looking for your some guidance please!If you want the Turnitin report ask for it. Yes 5% of the total would be fewer than 475 words and would normally be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. However if they haven’t sent the report perhaps they are focusing on other things like a duplicated Presentation or a templated Excel soreadsheet? Then the case would be extensive use of the work of others ‘to gain an academic advantage’ – and the 5% would be just another example of this alongside the other files….
@trephena, Thank you for your response.
I have my turnitin report, but is it advisable that I shall inform them too that in my turnitin report, the 5 % is only the header and footers that are matching. However still find attached details that are requested.
Is it advisable to inform them about my turnitin report?
Thanks
Unless the ACO have made an issue of the Turnitin score then just ignore it. If they are saying that there is a 5% match and you have found that some of this relates to the headers and footers then you can point this out in your reply.
An ACO case does not always centre around the Turnitin report however. A case may be triggered because the research seems too advanced compared with the analysis part of the report and includes very obscure references for example, so there is a mismatch between the two and looks like the work of 2 people with different abilities (i.e. the research part has been copied from another student’s paper). There are different reasons depending on the case and you need to focus on what are the main issues.
There major concern in the letter states that I have a 5% match with another student. If you want I can share the letter with you as well.
The only problem I m facing is its all too easy if I just point out that 5% match is just of header and footer in my report of turnitin. I am not sure what other reasons they think since its not mentioned.
Plus the details they asked for like drafts and articles notes, I dont have any since I just edited my word file again and again after the mentors comments. I do plan to make all these stuff again which I used for the thesis but I m afraid I dont want them to see that I m trying too hard.
Please advise as well.
I thank you for all your time and effort you are putting in to help me out.
@shay88 said:
I do plan to make all these stuff again which I used for the thesis but I m afraid I dont want them to see that I m trying too hard.
I don’t understand what you mean by this???
Sounds as though they suspect something else more than the 5%. Maybe they think it is old work being reused – like I say there could be lots of different reasons for an ACO referral.
Most people keep copies of their work at various stages of production or have them somewhere as attachments in their email. It would be unusual to have none at all. When I did my own dissertation I definitely did. I sent copies to my tutor he used track changes and sent it back and then I produced the amended version so there were 3 versions at about 3 different stages so at least 9 copies in total from start to finish Don’t you have the email copies you sent to the mentor??
I have that. Infact i have them with mentors comments back and forth and the revisions i made. but would that be enough?
I do not have any plans on paper or articles notes.
@shay88 said:I do plan to make all these stuff again which I used for the thesis but I m afraid I dont want them to see that I m trying too hard.
By this I meant, I know what plans i had, i just need to jot them down on paper and can send them but again its a made up thing which seems pretty useless to me.
The most i have is 5 to 6 emails and dissertation with mentors comments and then the revisions. Would that suffice?
And you also suggests that I should inform ACO that my plagiarism report has 5% thats all headers and footers. In the letter there is nothing else they are concerned about.
Yes send copies of the emails and attachments showing the earlier reports and mentor comments. What they want to see is the way your work evolved and changed so that should show it quite well. (As I said earlier this is normal to have copies at different stages so good you have them otherwise it would be odd and quite suspicious)
Don’t bother with writing up the plans if you didn’t do that at the time – it would be pointless and in fact would be sort of fabricating evidence. Stick with what you have. A 5% Turnitin match is on its own is not significant if a lot of it relates to headers and footers -so you could mention that this seems to be the main reason
Thank you for all your guidance.
So my course or action would be as follow:
1) Sending the mentors emails
2) Sending the different versions of RAP, SLS, Presentation, Reference and Appendices
3) Emailing them stating that I checked my submission on turnitin myself and the 5% match from other OBU student is only the header and footer in SLS and RAP.I hope this suffice.
Dear @trephena,
Can you help me please.
My results were referred to ACO.
The final email I have received is: “I felt that your Misconduct related to the SLS rather than the report I have spared you this and said that a new report was not necessary but a completely new SLS was ESSENTIAL.”
I have received Malpractice for my SLS.
Does it mean that if I paraphrase some parts of it and add new, it will fail me, even with 0% match?My Research report was failed due to bad referencing. I tried to correct it following the Turnitin report received from ACO. I followed the recommendations of ACO and tried to paraphrase passages of the report that were matched. When I submitted it to writecheck to see my progress, I have got 98% match. Does it mean that now I need to write a completely new report( I was told to do same topic and company for resubmission)? Do all fail reports go to live database? And if I try to paraphrase all my report and get low match score, it can be a fail.
I feel so confused now as do not know what to do.
ACO told to correct only the report, but this 98% match score scared me.@shay88 – yes that sounds like a good course of action. The copies of your work particularly if they show the creation dates on the files should be valuable evidence so good luck! 🙂
@kate1974 – the matching you are seeing on WriteCheck is probably matching with your P32 submission. Ensure you reference and paraphrase appropriately and if you do direct citations ensure you use quotation marks (put please read my Article on Referencing – all 3 parts to check you are on the right line).In your resubmission statement tell the marker what corrective steps you have done but mention that you put it through Writecheck and are worried that it is showing matches to your previously submitted work, which is why it is so high. However I would say that 98% might mean that you have not adequately paraphrased and precised sufficiently – you should aim to get this % down if possible (just a suggestion) because the marker might think that you haven’t made much of an effort to make adequate changes. If Topic 8 you will need to update so can you do a re-write in parts – how about looking for a few different sources to paraphrase perhaps and different writers to support the theory? That should reduce the % considerably. You can change your topic or company if you prefer provided you comply with the rules for T8 or T15 on industry sectors but it is a lot of work so you might need to consider submitting in P34 instead.
Fails for the SLS are usually because there is inadequate self-reflection but if you had malpractice then it means that OBU thought that you had copied parts of other students’ work and this breaks the rules. The way round this is simple – don’t copy and make sure it is all your own work based on your own experience – that way there will be no problem whatsoever – so no I don’t recommend paraphrasing. (Besides the marker will be expecting to see almost no matches in your SLS when they look at the Turnitin report expecially because the ACO has said that rewriting it is ‘ESSENTIAL’) So really you need to do what you have been told!).
@trephena.. thank you. do you came across any student whose result was referred to ACO but after providing sufficient evidence, he passed?
@shay88 – the ACO normally investigate areas of suspected cheating / collusion / copying or commissioning someone else to write the RAP – emphasis on the word ‘suspicion’. If the suspicion proves to be unsubstantiated then the student’s result is released.
Whether this is pass or fail depends upon what grade the original marker had awarded it. The ACO plays no role in awarding the grade if the student is exonerated – so if it is already a pass and there is no evidence of malpractice or misconduct that grade will stand. It will only be changed to a fail if the ACO find that the marker awarded a pass on the assumption that the student had completed the work themselves but the evidence indicates otherwise and that there are definite irregularities. The ACO can then take the decision to fail the work (see the Info Pack for the category of ACO penalties).
But to answer your question I am informed that between 10 – 15% of students are exonerated by the ACO and no penalty therefore is awarded. So if you are cleared you will get your result and get your marker grade or if a fail, the marker feedback.
@trephena, Thanks. I will keep you posted with my case as well.
@trephena, thank you for your advice. Its very helpful!
@trephena, I need to ask one more thing. I am sending ACO the word files of drafts, does the word author that shows up in properties matters? Like the author name is not the name of the student?
Would that matters?
Its the weird thing that I have recently heard and was informed that this could be the issue that ACO might have?
Need your guidance here as well.
I would seriously recommend that you DO NOT amend anything in the drafts, as this will change the date of last modified and can cause suspicion among the marker. Let the date remain old, lol
The issue you are referring, I think it shouldn’t really matter, because author name in the properties are usually set with the name of the PC.
At the end, I think change in date could cause more problem then the author name in properties.
Regards
@ehsan, Thank you for your guidance. The more people I discuss with, the weirder the details get.
I saw in the file details that I saved, some times it shows my name and in some files it shows my cousins name and remaining files, it shows the name of the person I dont even know. Would that raise a flag?
No one can be sure what marker will do, it depends entirely on marker.
Well, but, I guess red flag would definitely be raised if you changed the modification date just before submitting them.
Though there are few cheeky softwares that can change the date to which you want, lol
Regards
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