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- November 30, 2015 at 9:21 am #286337
@Usman – you have GOT to see the Turnitin report (unless the ACO is referring to the Presentation or Spreadsheets?) Write and say you have not heard of this student but you need to see what it is that he is asking about. Can he highlight the particular passages he is concerned about?
There are obviously some extracts that are the same and you have to consider yourself how this could have happened. If it was an internet source you need to find it and send the link or find a copy of it, to show that the other student used the same exemplar. Otherwise if there is a large amount the same the ACO is left asking How is this possible? Either one passed his work to the other/ they worked on it together/ the mentor or some acquaintance assisted with providing the material or something like that. He is looking at how it happened as matches should be low and obviously they are higher than can be expected by mere chance. He is not interested in why would you copy but how and who else was involved ? – as far as he is concerned there is too much that is similar to be just coincidental so wants to establish what has go on.
(The ACO apparently have access to all submitted RAPs so can examine the other student’s whole submission and know when he submitted and who his mentor was so: if you had the same mentor he may be looking for you to say the mentor gave you the exemplars)
December 1, 2015 at 12:58 pm #286707December 2, 2015 at 2:46 pm #286996@trephena, I just got a letter from ACO, stating Zero grade and he is not going to refer it to misconduct committee but he mentioned that ”the breach is of such a serious nature that I will be advising ACCA of this matter” and i have right to appeal. Please tell me what are the consequences….since the word “serious” seems to be very disturbing.
December 2, 2015 at 6:25 pm #287052All cases of Misconduct are reported to ACCA. However I believe this is in the form that a list of students who have been cautioned about Misconduct is sent to ACCA. Whereas the UMC is a formal hearing like a tribunal and cases of Serious Misconduct are put before the committee to decide on the basis of evidence and if found guilty full details are sent to ACCA.
You are entitled to appeal but my advice is to quit while you are ahead. I think sometimes the ACO stop just short of sending cases to the UMC (so Misconduct of a serious nature in my book sounds like this) as referring cases to the UMC involves them in a lot of work and effort in putting together evidence and statements. The UMC can increase as well as reduce penalties if they think the ACO has been too lenient. So if you say you are going to appeal, the ACO will want to make sure your case sticks and pounce on every bit of evidence they can lay their hands on….and unlike you the officer Isn’t going to be stressed out by the process. I think you should just accept what you got, move on and put the whole stressful thing behind you – but your choice.
December 11, 2015 at 1:00 am #290791AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi one of my friend received this email from ACO and wants to know what would happen specifically that would ACCA deregister him from the register .
any comments would be highly appretiated?from ACO “I have now considered the evidence in your case and have made a recommendation to the Academic Conduct Office that your offence be treated as Serious Misconduct. I set out my evidence in the accompanying letter and the reasons for this.
You are entitled to appeal against this decision (please see the Student Conduct Regulations) and appeals are normally considered by the University Misconduct Committee. Your case, if the ACO accept my recommendation, will be heard by the UMC who can impose a lesser penalty if they think that my decision is wrong or inappropriate.”
December 11, 2015 at 3:26 pm #290976yhm,
As UMC cases are Serious Misconduct we do not think we can give reliable advice in the circumstances
you should also read the section in the Information pack on Serious misconduct, familiarise himself with the OBU proceduresYou – or your friend should really contact OBU directly about the process if you are worried and find out from them what it means.
April 18, 2016 at 10:14 am #311074Dear Hammad Ahmad Qureshi,
I have received the following results from the conduct officer:
Disciplinary Outcome: Research and Analysis Project period 31
(Dear Hosa,
The coursework you have submitted for assessment for the Research and Analysis Project has been referred to me
for investigation because of concerns about its originality.
Your project was passed through Turnitin and an overall match of 99% over 7 sources was identified in the RAP.)Please provide us the following:
1. Plans and early drafts of your RAP and SLS which demonstrate how your ideas developed, ideally with drafts annotated by your mentor.
2. Copies of emails between you and your mentor.
3. Notes you have made from books and articles used in the RAP and SLS. )What maximum penalty can i get if i dont comply with the investigation since my tutor has disappeared and is not responding to my emails?
April 18, 2016 at 10:19 am #311078AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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And also if it is proved that the work is not mine?
April 19, 2016 at 8:48 am #311625(@hosa With a 99% Turnitin score there is no possibility that you are going to be able to explain this one away! If you don’t respond at all you are looking at a university misconduct committee hearing (UMC) . Effectively that means you will be expelled from the OBU programme and the details passed to ACCA for their further action (disciplinary proceedings).
Your best hope is to grass up your mentor IF they were involved. You might then escape with Misconduct and be subject to a penalty resubmission fee if you choose to resubmit. Normally ACCA is also informed in Misconduct cases but as it will just have stopped short of the UMC hearing it normally goes on your student / member record and that is it. ( I think ACCA only instigate disciplinaries if it has actually gone through the UMC).
So depending on what has gone on you have a choice – fess up fully and hope you will escape with Misconduct from the ACO or do nothing and you will get Serious Misconduct from the UMC + ACCA action. If there was no mentor involvement in the copying then obviously you cannot implicate the mentor (the mentor may be keeping a low profile because they don’t want to be further connected with you)
April 19, 2016 at 8:54 am #311628@imrankhan350 – same advice as with @hosa. If there is mentor involvement fess up and you might be lucky and escape with Misconduct.
July 8, 2016 at 6:10 am #324858AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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If found that misconduct Will it affect my ACCA exam, result can i still continue professional level.?
July 9, 2016 at 7:45 am #324928Your ACCA status is not directly affected. ACCA is automatically informed of all cases of Misconduct and it is noted on your student record. If there is any future question about your conduct in terms of integrity (professional, exams or with OBU) anything relevant on your file can be used as part of any disciplinary proceedings.
A hearing before the UMC resulting in a charge of Serious Misconduct being upheld means expulsion from the OBU programme and a potential ACCA disciplinary.
September 26, 2016 at 4:27 pm #341776Hey Friends.
I am new here. I submitted my RAP for period 32 and got the result withheld.
I am too confused. I am sure there is no plagiarism because i checked my SLS and RAP at turnitin software before submitting them.
What else could be the reason for withholding my result?
I am worried as sick about the issue.
September 26, 2016 at 4:43 pm #341779September 26, 2016 at 6:29 pm #341793Basically if you know you did your work yourself (and didn’t take lots if passages from the internet or from another student) you have nothing to fear. Sorry I am holiday at the moment but will address your issues when I return at the end of the week.
September 26, 2016 at 7:08 pm #341795Thanks for ur response. The only plagiarism I have in my SLS and RAP is mostly headings and SLS questions and some exact definitions which I wrote with the exact wordings but i referenced them every time.
What else could be the reason for the hold?
October 6, 2016 at 5:41 pm #342569Hi @trephena,
I have received the introductory email stating that she has been assigned the case and she will contacting me.
I would like to know If and how shall I be replying to this email.
Thanks for your help.
October 6, 2016 at 7:29 pm #342572Did you checked you project through main Tunitin software!?
If Yes, then this could be the main reason for hold up.
Regards,
EhsanOctober 7, 2016 at 1:07 am #342586Exactly! I thought there was a warning in the Information Pack advising against using Turnitin and suggesting writecheck instead? (The way Turnitin works is that every time a document is put through it, it retains that document on the database and then matches it to anything that is subsequently submitted. You will now have a very high matching score as your submitted work will have been matched to your earlier Turnitin version).
You do not normally need to respond until the ACO sends you the details of the allegations, however in your case as you presumably have a name and contact details I would email back and say what happened and await their response. This may shorten the process as there may be a a specific procedure for dealing with work checked on Turnitin before submitting.
October 7, 2016 at 6:58 pm #342652October 7, 2016 at 7:15 pm #342655Main Turintin is not for students, because it uploads the project to the main database, so whenever the marker passes the project in the system there will be similarities.
For students it is Writecheck, Turnitin sister website which doesn’t upload the project to the main system.
If it is due to the Turnitin, then I guess you shouldn’t worry at all. Markers will find out that the similarities are indeed from your own project lol.
Regards,
EhsanOctober 7, 2016 at 8:08 pm #342662I hope this is the case but I remember switching off the repository option.
I will email them back tonight and can only hope for the best.
October 12, 2016 at 12:31 am #343000Hello trephena, please can you assist here. I am a OBU period 32 student . I have done the RAP and the SLS entirely by myself but had my results referred to the ACO. Last week I received a letter from the ACO saying the following:
“The coursework you have submitted for assessment for the Research and Analysis Project has been referred to me for investigation because of concerns about its originality.
Your project was passed through Turnitin and an overall match of 37% over 54 different sources was identified in the RAP.
1. There is an 8% match to work submitted by Abdul Rafay Khan, 2. There are matches to other submissions and to UKEssays.
To assist me in investigating these concerns, I must ask you to send me a response to the evidence detailed above. Also, please send evidence to indicate that this project was solely your own work, by way of:
1. Plans and early drafts of your RAP and SLS which demonstrate how your ideas developed, ideally with drafts annotated by your mentor. 2. Copies of emails between you and your mentor. 3. Notes you have made from books and articles used in the RAP and SLS.
I appreciate that mail may take some time so I am e-mailing a copy of this letter so that you can begin gathering together your evidence. I am also aware that, like me, you wish this matter to be settled as speedily as possible so must ask that you send electronic material or post this evidence so that I receive it by 27 October 2016”.I have the following questions:
1.what is being meant by “match”. what is its difference with plagiarism?
2. Can I send screenshot of viber communications with my mentor to the ACO.
3. I have also included website links(showing shortcut of the webpage used) to the sources of information used in my RAP as part of my evidences. Is that sufficient or OK?
I really need your assistance in these areas. keenly waiting for your reply.Thank you so much
October 12, 2016 at 7:46 am #343022First can I say this post really belongs on “Results withheld / deferred” as that is the most appropriate topic (where I shall be reposting this in a couple of days)?
You should have been sent a Turnitin report which sets out your work that the program has found similar to other students’ work as coloured passages (the matches). The report shows each source as a different colour and gives it a number in descending order of how much it featured. So according to the information above then there would have been 37 shades of coloured text starting with red for the largest source then I think it is dark green and bright blue for the next 2 largest used source. Each time a particular source is used the words are in the colour so each time the program found words that Abdul Khan used (known as a match) it will show these in the same colour.
I think what OBU are trying to do is see if you put this work together yourself. So earlier drafts, and evidence of research are needed. I think actual emails to and from the mentor are required so screenshots of these might be accepted. Notes will be less reliable as evidence as they could be made up at any time.
Your real focus I think needs to on explaining the match to the other student. This can happen if both you and he used material from the same website or it can come from using another student’s piece of work and copying. What people don’t realise is that Turnitin can identify copied passages EVEN WHEN some rewording has taken place (if your coloured text has odd bits of black text within it this is where it is suggests recording has taken place). The person named is obviously another OBU student so what the ACO can do apparently is then click on your passage and bring up his at the same time and compare them. So you need to explain how come your work and his are the same in places. 8% represents nearly 800 words (and if the reworded bits in black text in coloured passages are added in the percentage could realistically be 10%) so ” coincidence ” won’t normally be acceptable. So how did it happen?
However apart from the UK essay element which again suggests copying, the other matches sound like bad or lack of referencing and too much copying and pasting from internet sources. Whereas what you should have done if you see my Golden Rules (No. 10) is learn to express things in your own words.
Overall you are probably either looking at malpractice (or possibly Misconduct depending on what else may be lurking in your work – I have heard that spreadsheets and PowerPoint slides of students with the same mentor are examined for similarities and this would not form part of the Turnitin report). Malpractice or Misconduct mean an automatic fail of zero, no feedback and you are likely to have to change topic or company or both for a resubmission (though Misconduct also carries a penalty resubmission fee of GBP 550). However I have heard of worse cases so my advice as always is fess up as this ends the stress – especially if you copied from the other guy (if he had the same mentor it will be presumed you copied from him anyway!). If you can prove innocence then it is likely to be just academic negligence for copying and pasting from sources and the penalties are less severe. Let us all know how you get on.
October 12, 2016 at 4:13 pm #343072Thank you very much Trephena. Well appreciated. Will keep you posted on any development.
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