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@trephena looking forward to hear from you maam
This must be super stressful for you man. I can’t even imagine going through something like that.
I believe @Trephena would clue you in 🙂 she’s really helpful
@farankhan111 – yes mega stressful!! I wouldn’t know how that happened. He can’t really do much until he is contacted by the ACO officer. Normally all cases flagged as suspicious by markers have their results withheld, then I think they are reviewed and some may then be cleared at the review stage but the rest are investigated. After investigation students are usually told what the ACO finds is suspicious and asked to explain why for example their worked has been matched by Turnitin to other work. So without knowing why the work is under investigation you/ he can’t really respond. I would hope they will tell him in a day or two…
Usually if the student knows they infringed the rules it’s best to ‘come clean’ as if they think they are being lied to the ACO get tougher (see @vinessen above who told them truthfully what happened and got Malpractice – I think if he hadn’t been so cooperative or tried to lie his way out they would have gone for Misconduct which also automatically means referral to ACCA)
@Uzma8814 any news abt ur project?
@Vinessen. Yeah got my answer from them. They asked me to resubmit the same project but with corrections. Better referencing.
I m happy that atleast I got a chance. 🙂@trephena. Thanks for your guidance on how to respond to them.
@kendal – the ACO can mete out different punishments depending on the severity of the offence. A zero grade I think is given for malpractice and misconduct which effectively is a fail e.g. no grade is given (so no pass) and because the work submitted was not all the student’s own work (the officer has judged it contained copied or plagiarised material) the feedback is cancelled. However it counts as a submission. If it is Misconduct you are forced to change the company and topic if you resubmit (malpractice is less harsh and they may not necessarily restrict the topic or company unless most of the plagiarised material was in Part 3)
@trephena the examiners decision is a zero grade . Examiner has written that ” you have the right to request ur case be reheard by a misconduct commitee . But you should note that academic misconduct commitee can increase as well as decrease the penalty. Although in this instance, i will not be refering the case to the undergraduate misconduct commitee for a more serious penalty , the breach of such a nature that i will be advising acca”.. What do you suggest trephena? It means if i decide to get it rechecked then the case could be referred to acca?
Hi trephena , how are you ?
I haven’t heard anything about my project from ACO office , what should i do now ?@kendal – a zero grade is the penalty – his / her decision on your case seems to have been ‘Misconduct’. Basically I think they are just telling you your rights: you have a right of appeal before the University Misconduct Committee (The UMC is a formal tribunal).
My advice is to ‘quit while you are ahead’ – by this I mean you are unlikely to get a lesser penalty unless you have clear and unequivocal evidence that proves you have not done much wrong (emphasis on the word ‘evidence’). If you appeal to the UMC and you lose your appeal you will have to pay GBP 500 to resubmit and it would also still be reported to ACCA… and of course you would still have the continuing stress as you probably wouldn’t get a UMC hearing until sometime in 2016. So my advice is accept the ACO decision, put an end to the stress now and move on…. but the final decision has to by yours
@trephena so that means they are not going to report it to acca or UMC now? It is just that if i want it to be reheard then this would happen. Right?
@trephena thanks alot 🙂 and please advice me which topic should i choose for resubmission..secondly i just logged into my OBU account . I can’t resubmit now. Why is it so ? And when am i going to be allowed to resubmit?
@kendal – all Misconduct cases I think are reported to ACCA but whether they take action is up to them. However I think they are more likely to take action if the UMC finds the student guilty. (Apparently the most serious cases automatically go to the UMC, whereas the decision for your case was Misconduct as opposed to ‘Serious Misconduct’).
You probably aren’t allowed to submit until P32 as I suspect you will have to choose either a different company and /or a different topic. (If it is not clear you will need to find out which by emailing the OBU Office)
As I mentioned above try T17 – our students following the guidelines on the T17 forum diligently have had some really good results.
@uzman if you haven’t heard at all then yes, I think you should email and try to find out what is going on. Maybe you need to check they have the right email address?
@trephena yes i have to resubmit with a different company and topic . But it’s clearly written in the email thai if i get the case reheard then for more serious penalty they are going to report acca. So if i don’t reopen the case do u think even then they are going to report it to acca?
@trephena kindly confirm this. Because as long as i have searched on internet only those cases are referred to acca in which a commitee finds the student guilty…
@trephena , i have checked the online portal and my email address is correct there , what’s best in my interest ? Is it worth waiting or i should contact them now ?
@usman – it is now about 7 weeks since the results came out so you have a right to know at this stage what is happening. It should not jeopardise your case – you should just send a polite email and say that you had expected to have been contacted by now and are concerned that your case might have been overlooked and please could you have an update?
@kendal – I suspect then that Misconduct cases are put on a general list where ACCA are notified that the students have been cautioned whereas the full details of the Serious Misconduct UMC cases and outcomes are forwarded to ACCA.
(They try to avoid UMC cases but I gather that some cases which would have ended at Misconduct are elevated to Serious Misconduct if the ACO Officer thinks the student is lying to them or hiding information. It seems with significant copying for example they can identify who you copied from, so someone trying to say that they found it on the internet but who then cannot produce the internet source is so obviously making an untrue statement as a search engine would easily find any internet source. So they will then ask them to produce the link to support their statement knowing full well who and when it was previously submitted and how it is more or less identical. It is always better therefore to admit something as they might then not put it through the UMC whereas they will rake through every bit of evidence for a UMC case to make sure there is little or no chance of the student being found ‘not guilty’….)
@trephena , thank you so much for your help , i have emailed them , i ll keep you updated with the reply 🙂
Thanks Alot@Uzma8814..great then goodluck
Hi everyone
I received email from my ACO asking a reason for changing my company for analysis. I replied him with legemate reason that after being failed in my first submission in 2013 I moved to pakistan from UK so It was logical for me to work on a company based in Pakistan. However I did not update my addresses with Acca and OBU.
ACO got back to me today with a reply that it is a critical issue and he needs to confirm it with ACCA and OBU about my current residency. I replied with and told him that I did not update my address, however I have been sitting in Acca exams in Pakistan since 2014 and my tution providers are also in Pakistan he can verify from them, I also have my passport as a profe of travel, he can also confirm from UKBA about my current residency. I also told him that I have utility bills as proof of my current residency in Pakistan.
I would like to ask is it a bad practice to not update the addresses.
What could be possible outcome.
Thanks in advance
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