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@uzma8814 – well that is more hopeful if it is mainly the Intro. Are you at the same college? or did you use the same study manuals? Did you have a session where your mentor gave you notes or ideas for the intro part? Some mentors copy stuff from other mentors (I am sure there are students out there who are being given material by their mentor that I have written but the students have no idea it came originally from Open Tuition and was written by me)

What I would do is:
1. state your sources for the Intro
2. apologise for the passages you used and say you tried to rephrase them but as English is not your first language it is not so easy for you as it probably would be for a native speaker,
3. Give examples of your research particularly to back up the really long passages
4. Point out that it is mainly the Introduction and it seems you and the other guy chose the same company (and if some of that Intro is company background you can say he probably accessed the company website like you did and found and used the same material)
5. Say if you had any group mentor sessions and any info that was given to everyone e.g. about what content to put in each section.

I think it will depend on how much similar work is in the SLS – again if your mentor made suggestions then you need to say this is what you were told to do.

As I said earlier you can be failed for referencing under bad academic practice for quite a lot of cutting and pasting The next charge up is a total fail for academic negligence for really heavy cutting and pasting . Then comes Academic Malpractice which is a zero grade -the difference between this and negligence is you fail and don’t get any feedback. After that the charges become far more serious if they think you copied from another student and it can considered to be Misconduct which is a zero grade, you cannot resubmit on the same topic and company + ACCA are told about your case. Let me know how you get on.

@trephena.
Thanks for the help.
U mean to say my degree and ACCA is gone!!

@vinessen – I am not sure quite what you mean by;

“Some of my references I had used were corresponding to others work. for example for my literature review I read lots of books and articles and my mistakes were instead of referencing the book itself I took out the reference from the referencing list same applies for articles also.”

are you saying you forgot to include these in your Reference list? If so what I would now do is go back to the list you submitted and put them in – use a red font so that they stand out ( and put them in the right order in the list) and when you reply to the ACO include this new list. This will show you know where they came from.

You can say that you did not realise how important referencing is as this is the first time you have done any academic work but have now read the Guides. (This also means you should direct any friends and family thinking of doing the RAP to our Opentuition site so they don’t have this problem)

Obviously I cannot say what the ACO will decide but hopefully they may go for negligence or malpractice which though both are faills malpractice is more serious and unfortunately means you don’t get feedback.

Regarding resubmitting in P31 – would you need to update because of financial statements? is your evaluation strong -read my article on this. Can you do good self-reflection now? Work on all these things while you wait to hear. If you do get a zero grade for Malpractice then it might be worth asking if although you get no feedback would the ACO be kind enough to tell you the sections failed. Some markers fail for understanding (section 2 if you have just copied and pasted passages into your work (see golden rule 10 in my Referencing article) S/he might although they don’t have to. Also don’t forget you now need a listed mentor.

Please let me know what happens

@farankhan111 – As I mentioned previously different ACOs seem to operate differently and I expect where their case load is high it could take a while to get back to some students.

I have been told that the guy who co-ordinates the ACO cases has been off sick but they have 5 ACO officers so they are doing their best to deal with cases as quickly as possible. As you can see some students on here seem to have been told what the issues with their work are.

All I can suggest is that you focus on your own Referencing and instances where you may have taken long passages from articles and copied and pasted these into your work as these seem to be the ‘normal’ problem areas. That way when you hear from the ACO you may be able to respond quickly as you have already looked at some of the issues and that could speed up your case. (Read all my advice to Vinessen and Uzma8814 too)

Be patient but if you haven’t heard in 10 days then it is reasonable for you to contact them…but inevitably someone is going to be the last person on the list….

@vinessen – well the best thing is to now write back to your ACO officer and tell him/her exactly what happened that way your case can be decided quickly. Use the info you have posted here as your response. I think using the thesis was the big error as if you did not acknowledge the writer of this you are guilty of plagiarism (passing someone else’s work off as your own). If you did put the Thesis down as a source this would make it a more minor offence especially if your part 3 is clear of major copying or ‘cut and paste sections’.

I think you are looking at either Malpractice or Misconduct but Malpractice being the less serious charge would enable you to resubmit on the same company and topic. If the ACO Officer however considers it to be Misconduct then you will have to go for a new Topic and company (in which case consider T17 as most of our students seem to pass that if they follow our advice on the Forum). It will probably depend on how much you have copied and how the ACO normally deal with similar cases.

@Trephena. Thank you. I m so much relieved now.

I am facing one problem. When I m trying to open my link some other page is opening.
I have used business recorder as my link and it was working perfectly well during that time..but as for now…it shows something else in that link…some news not related to the company.can u guide me what can I do in this case?

I have not copied as my financial years are different from my friend. The only source which was same was again an online source, it was for limitation of a model.
My only concern is rephrasing few passages in rap and Sls.

@vinessen. Did you receive any reply yet?

@vinessen. Thanks for ur reply. I m really scared for my project. Lets see what happens.
Goodluck for your submission!

HI Trephena, sorry for calling you sir..yes i am happy i can go for re-submission. i thank you so much for your advice.

@vinessen. Thank you!
I hope so too… Atleast i also get a chance. So scaredd!!!

Hi Vinessen,

As Trepehna is on holiday, we are doing a little covering for her (and hope we can do as good a job!)
Yes, purely by the wording of the examiner (he used OR). It should be fine as they essentially are disregarding your earlier project and wish that u start on a new one. A new topic will require new information and content so it will serve the examiner’s purpose.

All said, we suggest dropping OBU a follow up email with your query to get a confirmation. 5 minutes of typing out an email, in return, u sleep peacefully at night. That’s a good deal.

Irwin
The Learning Luminarium

Hello All,

An acquaintance of mine is facing an issue, he didnt get any email from OBU and when he inquired he found out that his ACO missed his case or something.

Can i get guidance on that on my friend’s behalf?

– What should be his course of action? He should wait or contact the authorities?

– What can possibly be wrong that his case went unseen or ignored?