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(Archive) Results withheld/ deferred

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  • This topic has 313 replies, 62 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by shamshir abbass.
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  • September 9, 2017 at 7:16 am #406944
    johndavid001
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    @trephena thank u for your response. It happened 2 years ago, I have received invitation for membership. While transferring to membership will it cause any trouble and also after attaining membership status.

    September 9, 2017 at 6:02 pm #407036
    trephena
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    I very much doubt it will be mentioned. So chill baby, chill! 😀

    December 16, 2017 at 6:31 am #423698
    trephena
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    This letter is not very clear about whether they think you have committed Malpractice or Misconduct here (a zero grade and making you chose another topic can indicate either Malpractice or Misconduct). The former is less serious than the latter (and as such does not involve notification to ACCA). It does say that “I will be advising ACCA of this matter” so my guess is Misconduct.

    I think this means your student record at ACCA will have this recorded as a note but unless you commit a further offence(s) then no action is taken.

    However what you do need to be aware of is that Misconduct means you will have to pay the penalty resubmission fee (currently GBP 600). This is mentioned somewhere in the Info Pack.

    December 16, 2017 at 3:38 pm #423732
    Amir Abdul Salam
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    Thanks a lot… Really appreciate it

    March 7, 2018 at 1:19 pm #440983
    chowdhury123
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    @trephena hi my course work was refereed for ACO investigation and the outcome was failed due to negligent in academic work. But today i again received mail

    Although you have received a grade for your Period 34 RAP submission, the coursework you have
    submitted for assessment for the Research and Analysis Project has been referred to me for
    investigation because of concerns about its originality. In particular, your project shows a number of
    striking similarities to other projects which have been submitted by students of the same mentor:
    1. Many passages of the Research Report appear to be paraphrases of the same report and
    use the same elements (including charts) in the same style and place.
    2. The spreadsheet is in the same style and comprises the same elements in the same order
    3. The presentation file has the same slides with changes only to detail.
    These similarities indicate that you may have received too much help in preparing your Research and
    Analysis Project, to the extent that it cannot be said to be entirely your own work.
    To assist me in investigating these concerns, I must ask you to explain how such a high match could
    have occurred. You may also send me any other evidence that this was solely your own work, but
    please note that my major area of concern relates to the similarities outlined above.
    I appreciate that mail may take some time so I am e-mailing a copy of this letter so that you can begin
    gathering together your evidence. I am also aware that, like me, you wish this matter to be settled as
    speedily as possible so must ask that you email or post this evidence so that I receive it by 19 March.

    Could u please help me regarding this issue.

    March 8, 2018 at 12:40 pm #441409
    trephena
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    First I sympathise as an ACO investigation can be quite stressful.

    A common problem is that mentors sometimes provide too much direct help as opposed to guiding the student with their work. A degree is about researching and working things out for yourself with some constructive feedback from a mentor/tutor /supervisor along the way.

    Too much input from a mentor or another student such as those outlined in your post would be in breach of the student regulations and is a more serious matter than just academic negligence.

    Although you were originally failed for negligence it sounds as though new evidence (i.e work and statements from other students) has now come to light and so your case is being reopened. As a forensic accountant myself I have sometimes investigated something I thought was minor which developed into a major concern as I was gathering evidence. So I think this is what has happened here.

    I would advise you to cooperate fully and not try to distort facts as the ACO probably already have a good idea of what has gone on. In fact I suspect that they are as much (if not more) concerned about the mentor’s activities as your work. If you know that your mentor was offering to help out with producing spreadsheets, slides and the written work and handing out a template/ sample then it is best you supply the facts about the mentor’s operations as you may escape the worst penalties.

    Obviously how and what the ACO will decide is up to them but if you can show that your mentor influenced your work and you were misguided and led astray by him /her you are likely to be dealt with more sympathetically. You are potentially looking at Academic Misconduct here with the GBP 600 penalty resubmission fee, however if you own up quickly and demonstrate undue mentor influence you may possibly avoid this and get the slightly slower penalty of Malpractice (with no financial penalty).

    I know when I conduct investigations if an accused witness helps me I am usually more lenient in my final treatment of them. Where someone insists they have done nothing wrong in spite of mounting evidence I find it tiresome as in effect, they are treating me as a fool and no professional likes that. I suspect it is similar with the ACO officers and if you don’t mess them around and cause hassle but instead are truthful and helpful that could benefit you ultimately -let’s hope so and that consequently you avoid a really high penalty

    March 31, 2018 at 4:13 am #444297
    shamshir abbass
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    hi my results has been defferred guys please pray for me i have emails which i sent to my mentor as a proof that my project is my own work and in these emails even the slightest change on my project is mentioned in total i have more than 20 such emails in the time of aprox 3 months are they enough plus please suggest me for which kind of questions i need to be prepared plus i do have some notes on my register but they are very small in quantity as i have very bad and slow writing due to cerebal palasy so should i also submit my medical certificate while providing my resgiter workings if they ask for evidence guys please reply as soon as possible because i am tensed and unable to focus on my p7 studies

    March 31, 2018 at 9:59 am #444317
    LearningLuminarium
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    Hi Shamshir
    Sorry to hear this.
    Yes, do submit your medical certificate to show cerebral palsy. Also, the email thread is useful.
    You may wish to find past drafts of your report that shows you refining them along the way.

    There is not much real preparation that we suggest. Because when one has done his own work, he naturally will be able to answer any questions about it. Being overly prepared can make a person sound artificial and suspicious.
    Just be yourself and explain your academic journey to them (assuming they have a video call with you)

    All the best,
    Irwin
    The Learning Luminaries

    March 31, 2018 at 5:18 pm #444336
    shamshir abbass
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    Thanks bro one more question in how much days aco will contact me plus one more thing i have refferenced my work well i have more than 100 and between 110 references in my list of reference plus as far as kmow i was the. Only one student from my mentor who submitted project on Boeing and Airbus so i think there is no chance that my project matches with some one else i want to ask that can you tell me what can be the reason of reffering my project to aco and secondly i have read in this forum that aco will check my project with human eye now by checking with human eye if aco thinks that my project is well refferenced will he still contact me and ask me for proof

    April 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm #446025
    shamshir abbass
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    Hi i have received an email from my aco tommorrow in that she said she would be looking in my project and she will contact me in next 2 to 3 weeks now i have some questions
    1 as stated above i made my project own my own even i made my headings after getting guidance from obu information pack opentuition and annamentor website so i am unable to understand what could be the problem in my project
    2 should i sent my aco an email and ask her about the problem in my project?
    3 i changed the name of my project file just before submitting that is why the file i sent to my mentor for final review has different name as compared to the file i submitted but both files contain exactly the same information as i have said earlier i will send her all the emails which i had with my mentor if she asks. the question is should i also send her the file which i submitted or the email containing my file for final review is enough?
    4 is there any chance that my aco just get satisfied while reading my project and she exonerate me after 3 weeks because i don’t want this period to lasts long
    5 if she asks for evidence should i provide all evidence in one go or should i provide evidence in steps?
    Please reply i am curiously waiting for reply from anyone

    April 10, 2018 at 7:49 pm #446033
    trephena
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    It is difficult for us to give specific advice as we understand that procedures vary according to the circumstances. According to OBU statistics we believe that 10-15% of cases are exonerated – although this is at the end of their investigation and very few students are exonerated without any investigation. We are told that this is because at least 2 people including a senior marker are involved in the decision to investigate further and therefore the ACO will normally need to satisfy themselves that the decision to defer was unnecessary given the evidence before they are satisfied and will exonerate the student.

    Our advice is to cooperate fully when your ACO contacts you (and do not try to treat the ACO as fools as they know from experience all of the excuses). As TLL informed, your evidence of the mentor relationship will be useful.

    Wait until the ACO contact you with their evidence before reacting to them as they will have specific questions. And remember if you are innocent this should be readily apparent -so goodl luck!

    April 11, 2018 at 6:12 pm #446207
    shamshir abbass
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    thanks guys i will contact you again as soon as my aco contacts me again

    April 20, 2018 at 1:58 pm #448254
    shamshir abbass
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    Guys i got email it is 19% plaegeurism and she is asking that my sls report is matching aprox half to someone else well i dont know that student plus i made my sls report on my own it was my own words my own experience what should i do please help

    April 20, 2018 at 4:29 pm #448274
    trephena
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    How has this 50% match happened?

    I can understand why they are asking questions about this as normally similarities would only result in small matches in the SLS. Did your mentor or someone else give you samples to work from as that seems like the only plausible explanation?

    (As a forensic accountant myself I would say a 50% similarity is unlikely normally to have occurred by mere chance as with the SLS it means 900 – 1000 words/ and phrases are the same. Everyone has a different writing style and when it comes to the SLS have different ideas so matches would be expected to be <5% I.e about 75 -100 words max and the occasional sentence might the same).

    April 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm #448275
    shamshir abbass
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    Mam i am also shocked to see that i was thinking that my other files may have got problem but to see a problem in sls was shocking for me mam i didn’t got any file from anyone it wasmy own words and any plagerism is co incidence mam what should i do now

    April 20, 2018 at 5:39 pm #448280
    shamshir abbass
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    Please reply i am really really tensed what should i don now i didn’t copy my sls its my own mam i have worked very hard on my project and i dont want a disciplinary action against me neither i want to resubmit my project because of this small co incidence

    April 21, 2018 at 8:51 pm #448402
    trephena
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    I am a bit confused here though as you have said something about 19% plagiarism – in the research report that could be normal and just coincidence.

    You should be sent all the evidence so that you can see for yourself and examine everything in the context of what they are saying the issue is. Having examined it all carefully you should query it If the work is not yours. Have they sent you the wrong Turnitin report?
    The only other thing I can think of is are you sure you uploaded the correct file when you submitted? I really don’t know what else to say.

    (Without seeing the evidence I am not in a position to comment with any authority except that a 50% match would not normally be regarded as a co-incidence because in any written text it would tend to indicate a common source. This is why I asked previously if your mentor had supplied ‘samples’ – if so did you accidentally upload that file instead of your own? )

    April 22, 2018 at 2:24 pm #448447
    shamshir abbass
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    Well mam they are saying i copied in sls they are not questioning my whole project

    April 25, 2018 at 7:07 pm #448845
    chowdhury123
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    i just want to know if there is serious breach of conduct what impact will be with the ACCA status

    May 4, 2018 at 10:52 am #450053
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    Hello friends i have received the following report, do i have any hope and what actually is required at this point.
    The coursework you have submitted for assessment for the Research and Analysis Project has been referred to me for investigation because of concerns about its originality.

    1. There was a Turnitin match of 24%
    2. 13% of the match was to other OBU submissions, particularly one of 10% (mainly the SLS) to a submission in period 26
    3. There were also matches of 12% to the internet indicating a significant amount of cut and paste

    To assist me in investigating these concerns, I must ask you to explain how such similarities/discrepancies could have occurred. You may send me any evidence you would like to support a contention that this was, indeed, solely your own work, but please consider that my main area of concern at the moment is that which is set out above.

    May 4, 2018 at 10:08 pm #450143
    trephena
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    As always I advise you to cooperate -I’ve heard if you own up straightaway you are more likely to get a lighter punishment. The students who maintain innocence when there is strong evidence against them are fools really as it prolongs the investigation and annoys the ACO and therefore they end up with the worst of both worlds- a higher penalty and often the penalty resubmission fee GBP 600

    You are probably looking at academic negligence if you are very, very lucky or realistcally academic malpractice. If you are unlucky then they could give you Misconduct and the Penalty resubmission fee. You will probably get a fail anyway and usually end up having to submit on a totally different company regardless. However on the bright side you are normally allowed to resubmit (and that should certainly be the case for a 24% score), so it’s not the end of the line

    The most incriminating thing may be the SLS and the 10%, Depends if this percentage is 10% of everything ((7,500 + 2,000) *10%) or 2,000 *10% – the difference is about 950 words in the first scenario or 200 words for the second.

    200 words in an SLS might be explainable – anything more than this is harder to explain away. Once they see similarities in the written work they might also look at the other files too. Like I say if you know you did it, fess up and hope for the best.

    May 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm #450365
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    My friend in recent attempt was referred to ACO, and had 25-35% matching. He accepted his mistake in first e-mail, and the investigator gave him least penalty, no fine nothing. Just a re-submission fee.

    Regards.
    Ehsan

    May 7, 2018 at 11:03 am #450426
    trephena
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    Confirms what I have said – Fess up if you are guilty!

    May 23, 2018 at 4:22 am #453463
    baqarraza26
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    I submit my thesis 2nd time ACO asked me how to improve Allot i give explanation i use Grammarly software and you tube videos but waiting since 15 day ACO not yet reply .please guide me i should contact to my Aco as 2 month has been pass to result anounce

    May 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm #453596
    trephena
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    For some reason your earlier post:

    “Hi I don’t know any 1 can help me or not .
    I submit my rab 2nd time this time I have been asked how I did allot improvements in sentence ,grammerly and the vacabery? I told him I used gramerly software . today 10 days has been passed but I have not got any responce from aco.
    Please tell me after how many days i should contact with ACO. If i have not get response. As 2 month already has been passed for result announcement”

    and my reply from yesterday have both disappeared into the ether

    so I have re-posted your original query above and my answer below:

    “I think they try to resolve ACO cases within 2 months but this is a general guide. Some cases are more complex than others and sometimes other students may be implicated so they are waiting to compare responses and someone’s case is always going to be last. So 2 months though a target is an average.

    I think you will just have to sit it out and expect it may be at least another week or 10 days before you get a follow up from them. However you could send a polite enquiry as a reminder…”

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