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SELF STUDY ACCA F1-F9 After A-level possible?

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  • September 1, 2014 at 10:28 am #193193
    william
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    hello every senior here!
    i am considering about self study the acca from F1 to F9 then proceed to P level.
    I am going to finish my Alevel.
    i don’t know where should i start, and how to do it and where to exam?
    it’s sufficient to just use Opentuition lectures and notes?
    is there any other resources available?
    and i am planning to work-self-study? possible? perhaps non accounting work related.
    I just want to save cost as tuition provider is charging too high.
    further, some paper have difference variance , which should i choose UK? Global?
    Please advice! Thank you

    September 1, 2014 at 12:31 pm #193198
    MikeLittle
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    Hi William

    If you’re going to use opentuition as your main provider, the variants to choose are as follows:

    F4 either English or Global. The lectures are all English but there is a 50% – 60% overlap between the two variants

    F6 is UK variant

    F7, F8, P2 and P7 are all international (there is no longer a UK variant for F7 nor F8)

    The ACCA rules are that you must clear F1 – F3 (or at least be entered for) before you are allowed to enter for any of the F papers from F4 through to F9

    The opentuition course notes should provide you sufficient information for your purposes. There really is no need to purchase a study text for any of the F papers (unless you really, really, really wish to get heavily into any particular topic)

    However, you MUST acquire either a revision kit from one of the approved publishers or download the past exam questions and answers from this site

    You will read countless times on this site that all 4 of the tutors endlessly recommend that you practice, practice, practice past exam questions – so much so that the students themselves are quoting the advice

    “is there any other resources available?” – yes – expensive, but yes. There are three ACCA approved material providers – in alphabetical sequence they are Beckers, BPP and Kaplan

    Opentuition does not appear as an approved material provider if for no other reason that we have never applied to be one!

    “i don’t know where should i start, and how to do it and where to exam?” it is unlikely that you will be eligible for any exemptions from any of the ACCA exams. So start with the three knowledge level papers F1, F2 and F3.

    Without in any way being biased, there is sufficient material on this site that, together with question practice, should see you comfortably through the exams. As for where, the ACCA publishes their examination centres so you should be able to find one relatively easily

    There are many of our Opentuition student family that do self-study and hold down a full time job. There are even some that do all that AND run a family. Don’t worry, you are not the first in your situation and you certainly will not be the last!

    Hope that helps but, if you should have any queries in the future, please do post.

    And now, it’s your turn to help us! Are any of your A level colleagues thinking about ACCA as a career choice? Please, pass on the word about opentuition and its free resources

    Finally, at which college are you studying and which A level paper are you taking?

    September 2, 2014 at 6:16 am #193260
    william
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    Thank you so much Mike, yes some of my colleagues considering taking degree in accounting before proceed to ACCA. I am certainly going to recommend to them.
    I am currently taking law, accounting and business studies in A level papers.
    The problem that is that all the revision kits it it about the MCQ in F1-3? Must purchase online?
    How long can i complete Acca by self study? Is there any extra advice?
    I am quite worry because i have never tried self-study before. Thank you.

    September 2, 2014 at 11:59 am #193297
    MikeLittle
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    Hi again

    yes, self study is tough but there are a number of students that are qualifying for whom self-study is the only option – either because of the expense of tuition courses or because there is no tuition centre near them. But they are qualifying, so it can be done!

    If you look further into this website (opentuition) you will find mcqs for all of F1 – F3 and F4 mcqs will be available soon too.

    The cost of a revision kit / exam kit published by an approved supplier is not extortionate and has HUNDREDS of mcqs in there

    A word of advice – when you get your hands on a revision kit DO NOT mark your answers within the book itself – for two reasons

    1) if you don’t mark your answer in the book, it means that you can go over and over the questions as many times as you are able just to get the necessary practice, and

    2) when you have cleared the multiple choice exams, you have an exam kit / revision kit that is used but not defaced and you may be able to sell it on to someone about to start their ACCA journey

    How long will it take to pass all your exams? I have taught at least 3 students in the past that have started with 3 exemptions – so 11 exams to take and pass – and they have taken 4 exams in each of 3 consecutive exam sitings – a total of one week longer than 12 months

    “I am quite worry because i have never tried self-study before.” No need to worry – you can take the exams at your own pace and effectively in any sequence. There are rules later on but essentially you must pass the first three in any sequence, then the next six in any sequence, then the next three in any sequence and finally two from a choice of four.

    With self-study, you are not alone – there are many thousands of students just like you that use the full facilities of opentuition. We are here for you – use us πŸ™‚

    Hope that helps

    September 2, 2014 at 1:42 pm #193310
    william
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    Thank you so much, i highly appreciate your advices.
    which if i self study, i just use opentuition notes and lectures plus the revision kits it is eg BPP? is there others needed?
    i consider take first 3papers in first sitting.

    September 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm #193320
    MikeLittle
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    For papers F1 – F3 the opentuition course notes and lectures together with LOADS of practice on mcqs should be sufficient for you to get comfortable passes in all three – it all depends of course on how much effort you are prepared to put in, but those comfortable passes should be achieved whilst still allowing you time to eat and sleep!

    Seriously, spend as much time as you are able. The more you practice, the easier it becomes (to paraphrase Lee Trevino (US / Mexican golfer who, when having won an open competition was being interviewed by a reporter. The reporter said “Well, Lee, you seem to be having a run of good luck recently” to which Trevino responded “You know, it’s a funny thing. The more I practice, the luckier I get”

    It’s the same with all of the ACCA exams – the more you practice, the easier they become

    Incidentally, if you wish to be certain that your posts are answered, put them on the relevant Ask the Tutor page. It’s just lucky that I happened to see your last two posts

    September 2, 2014 at 5:01 pm #193341
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    Hi William,

    F1-3 can be done via Computer based (CBE) if available in your area. this means that you can sit these outside of the June/Dec sitting. so this means that you can sit them any time you are ready. in my area CBE is offered the last thursday of every month so i registered for the exam and take that one month to fully immerse myself in the paper then sit it. that can especially be done for paper F1 and F3 if you did accounting before. the costing paper is a bit harder so i would recommend a two month period for the extra practice.

    I started with a tuition provider for F2 and F3 failed F2 and barely past F3 and that was based on previous knowledge mainly. I find that OT lectures better prepare you than most teachers (i even know some lectures that use OT notes for there classes).

    The lectures and notes here along with technical articles and a good revision kit has helped me tremendously.

    as a fellow self study with work and family and on a tight budget I wish you luck on your journey.

    September 3, 2014 at 9:05 am #193436
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    Thank you so much Mike, for your all your help. πŸ™‚

    Thank you latoyah!

    September 3, 2014 at 4:19 pm #193507
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    Hi William

    I can’t say much as Mike has already brilliantly told you everything you need to know!

    What I will say is that a year ago when I left college, I was in a similar situation to you. Uni fees were up and I didn’t really wanna go there

    I decided to take Acca, started on 15th June 2013 and as of today I have done 6 papers!

    Regarding self study, it can be done but one thing I will say is that you have to put effort and be dedicated to it. Acca requires time, practise, patience and above all Not giving up!!

    I hope you make the right decision for your self!!

    And regarding opentuition, I personally study at kaplan, but this site is just brilliant! Amazing staff! Amazing teachers! You will get all the help you need!

    September 4, 2014 at 2:35 am #193578
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    thanks Sam, may i know more about the self study technique??

    September 4, 2014 at 3:47 am #193581
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    Further, may i know what is the difference between Kaplan and opentuition

    September 4, 2014 at 6:43 am #193594
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    Like Mike said, Kaplan are approved providers for Acca!

    Self technique can be learnt from books or download opentuition notes and watch free lectures that go with it!

    September 4, 2014 at 3:50 pm #193690
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    My self study technique is to watch the OT lectures while going through the notes and as soon as that is done I hit the revision kit.

    For level two i did two papers per sitting one theory and one computation. luckily i can study at my desk so i listen to the lectures for the theory while i work and read the notes during commute. for the computation papers i try to do at least two hours each day working examples in the lecture notes. The examples in the notes are usually basics but it helps you grasp the principles. OT has revision lectures for pass papers i would work the pass paper they worked then watch the video and that would usually clear up any areas that were confusing for me. If still not clear about a point i post the questions and usually get a prompt answer.

    i dont study on weekends the most i would do is listen to lectures while doing house work. when i was doing F4 Mike had said you should be able to sing along with his lectures by the time you are ready. and i can tell you that for it does work when you go into the exam room with little sleep and full of nerves you will go blank and if you had Mike’s voice in your head telling you about ships at seas etc you may not remember the case name but you remember the point of law. it goes the same for F8.

    For ACCA when they say practice, practice then practice some more its not a joke. cover the exam syllabus and practice all the questions in the kit. last few days before either do the mock exams or a print the 4 last exam papers from acca site and work those even if you did the questions already. i can guarantee you that by the time you reach back to one you had done in the beginning it will look new.

    Each person have their own method of study that works for them so if you are serious about doing it then you can. a great way to find out about what work for others is to read the interview with prize winners and the forums for the paper that you will be sitting.

    September 5, 2014 at 4:35 pm #193999
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    Thank you so much Latoyah your advices are really invaluable!! Thanks to Sam too. One of worry was, in my local area here, the one university/ college that offering Acca course are terribly expensive as they charged so high because they have been obtained Platinum status for the past decade, and produced many World prize, of course, I am unable to pay. So if I self study, could I register there for the exam, would they reject if I am not a student there?
    As for the paper that have different variant, could I take different eg. Uk , and the student therewas examine eg. Global. The exam centre can provide 2 variant exam?? Can a non- uk student taking uk variant out of Uk??
    And where collect the result if it was released?

    September 5, 2014 at 7:16 pm #194015
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    Hi William – not to worry! All will be made clear!

    “So if I self study, could I register there for the exam, would they reject if I am not a student there?” The ACCA publish the details of examination centres around the World. Check out the ACCA site for the approved centre in your area

    “As for the paper that have different variant, could I take different eg. Uk , and the student therewas examine eg. Global. The exam centre can provide 2 variant exam??”
    Yes, when you send to the ACCA your examination entry details, you will specify which variant of the variant applicable papers you wish to take. The ACCA will ensure that they send a copy of that variant to the examination centre that you have indicated you wish to attend and, come the day of the exam, and you walk into that exam room, the invigilators will ask “Which variant do you want?” – you tell them, and away you go!

    “Can a non- uk student taking uk variant out of Uk??” Yes, of course, no problem

    “And where collect the result if it was released?” On your examination entry, you will be asked if you would like your results to be emailed to you. If you say “Yes” then they will be emailed at 00.01 on the morning of either February 8 or August 8, whichever exam sitting / session you are attending

    Of course, the results for the cbe F1 – F3 are, I believe, instantly available and by the time you’re doing F4 Law, that too will be available in cbe form as well as in paper form

    Keep posting those questions and keep passing the good word around with your A level colleagues (if it’s not already too late!)

    September 6, 2014 at 6:12 am #194034
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    Thank you Mike, you really clear most of my doubt! Wonderful.
    Yes I have checked on their examination centre list, they indicated the particular college mention above.
    I heard most of them said I can register on Acca website itself. HOw? Is there any fees need to be paid of? Any requirement? Because I want to register by the time I finish my A level at this November. While waiting for the result to be release on January can I register? Further, in. Registration should I specify anything about self study or the exam centre? Or I require to go to the college and register there? It’s quite confusing. I also not sure whether they provide Cbe or paper on F1-3.

    September 6, 2014 at 7:16 am #194035
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    As well, I found out that my country have own national variant. But, if I am going to use OT I think I can only access to Uk or global. Pls help

    September 6, 2014 at 8:51 pm #194123
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    Am I getting the impression that you are from KL?

    Yes, opentuition is only for English Law (but is 50% – 60% relevant for Global Law)

    OT F7 is International, P2 is International and P7 is International.

    You can register online with ACCA through the ACCA website.

    If you register before September 8 it will cost less than after September 8 and the last date you can register for exams in the December session is October 8.

    Of course, cbe should be available for you throughout the year – dependent only upon your local college (Sunway?) being available

    As for fee payment, the ACCA website will guide you through that process

    Incidentally, again you were lucky that I saw your post. If you want to make sure that a tutor answers you, post your questions on the Ask the Tutor pages on this site. If you specifically want me to answer, post on the F4 page. Otherwise, post on F1 for Gromit or F2 and F3 for John Moffat

    September 7, 2014 at 1:30 am #194136
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    Thank you again Mike, you are brilliant, your guessing is right. Ya I am talking about Sunway. From your words do u mean they provide CBE? Is CBE easier or harder than paper?
    Ya, but I just continue the post because if post there it seem odd, and need restarted a topic.
    So the last question would be regarding the F4 the choice that I have is either my national variant or Global. If I take Global still have half of the lectures but if my national variant there seem to be no lectures
    So how?

    September 7, 2014 at 3:11 am #194138
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    Further the rule is I can only choose between national or global. Actually I don’t mind taking Uk for F4. But Acca not allow.

    September 7, 2014 at 11:26 am #194166
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    I don’t understand why ACCA will not allow! Is that your guess or has ACCA said this.

    Cbe is no easier nor harder. If either were, the other one wouldn’t exist

    So far as I am aware, you could do English Law, local tax (if it exists) and International auditing

    But I could so easily be incorrect

    September 7, 2014 at 2:29 pm #194176
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    I think I confuse between the Tax and law which have3 option to choose the uk, global, local. With the auditing standard
    It Appear like this made me confuse, sorry mike! “In Malaysia, these papers have been adapted for national accountancy practices. If you live in a country where there are no adapted national standards then you should choose either the International or UK standards. If you live in a country where adapted national standards are available, you should choose between International or the national adapted standard.”

    An the law and tax part appears as follow ”
    Due to national requirements, variant papers are not offered for all Joint Examination Schemes. In such cases where the variant is not available, the UK variant will be offered for tax papers and the English or global variant for the law paper.”

    Which made me confused.

    I just curious about CBE whether the format still same as the paper regarding the question other than MCQ. I thought it necessary to hand written to prepare an account, just wonder how to prepare Account in PC.

    September 7, 2014 at 2:51 pm #194178
    william
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    Ops, Mike follow the acca website written as follows” ACCA has a variant paper covering global corporate and business law – you should choose this option if you intend to work in a region where ACCA does not offer a national law paper.”

    Does it mean if I take Uk law paper, I cannot work in a region where ACCA does not offer a national law paper?

    September 8, 2014 at 6:51 pm #194360
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    “I just curious about CBE whether the format still same as the paper regarding the question other than MCQ. I thought it necessary to hand written to prepare an account, just wonder how to prepare Account in PC.”

    There are NO accounts to prepare in F4 law paper! You’ll be lucky to see a value / number in the paper! It’s all written so no accounts to be prepared

    “Does it mean if I take Uk law paper, I cannot work in a region where ACCA does not offer a national law paper?”

    That’s not how I interpret it! There must be MANY qualified UK ACCA people that took the English law variant and are now working abroad. It’s merely a bit of ACCA advice for those who are in two minds what to do and which to choose.

    OK?

    September 10, 2014 at 6:26 am #194477
    william
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    Thank you so much Mike, you have clear all my doubts!! Thank you so much, right now I would be waiting to finish my A level and proceeds to Acca. πŸ™‚

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