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Ryder (9/19)

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA AAA Exams › Ryder (9/19)

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  • February 26, 2020 at 4:07 pm #563232
    wyyy
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    Question 1
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    The parent company appears to be investment entity as it does not trade only holds the shares in each subsidiary company. How to clearly know it’s not? As for investment entity, subsidiary held at FV through profit or loss

    Is it correct to say ‘government grant has to recognise to match with relevant cost. Since the grant has yet been spent, it should not be recognised’
    the marking scheme only give mark for condition point

    Thank you

    February 27, 2020 at 8:35 am #563283
    Kim Smith
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    A good question but here’s a definition based on IFRS 10:
    “Investment entity – an entity which:
    – obtains funds from one or more investors in connection with its BUSINESS of providing INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT SERVICES;
    – commits to those investors that those funds will be invested solely for returns from capital appreciation or investment income (or both); and
    – measures and evaluates the performance of substantially all of its investments on a fair value basis.”

    Ryder Co does not “trade” – i.e. does not provide goods/services – so clearly does not meet the first criterion. As an aside, I don’t think a parent could be an investment entity in an AAA group planning question because it wouldn’t provide a suitable scenario for the learning outcomes of the syllabus which all revolve around consolidation, etc.

    Yes I think it is correct to say that but you would need to be clearer/elaborate on what you mean by “not recognised”. Since it has been received – something has to be done with the other side of the entry – so it has to be recognised as something somewhere.

    I don’t know what you mean by/what your question is relating to “the marking scheme only give mark for condition point”. The marking scheme is “up to 3 marks for each audit risk evaluated unless otherwise indicated” (and it is not otherwise indicated for government grant).

    February 27, 2020 at 11:16 am #563297
    wyyy
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    I am clear now. Thank you 🙂

    Owh, I mean the point about government grant in marking scheme only about risk of condition not met
    ‘government grant-risk that conditions will not be met and a liability should be recognised for repayment of grant’
    But not mention $20m should not included within operating profit as it has yet been spent.

    February 27, 2020 at 11:22 am #563299
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    But if a liability should be recognised the adjustment required is Dr P/L and Cr Liability.
    If it shouldn’t have been included in operating profit it will also be Dr P/L – where are you going to put the Cr if not to liability?
    What I am trying to say is that you are looking at the “other side of the same coin” – as a matter to be evaluated which will be awarded up to 3 marks it doesn’t need to be spelt out in more detail in the marking scheme.

    April 13, 2020 at 2:09 am #567647
    wyyy
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    Hi tutor, I passed the March sitting. 😀

    I really appreciate you for answering all my questions during my preparation. It helps me a lot. 🙂

    April 13, 2020 at 8:21 am #567775
    Kim Smith
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    Thank you for sharing your success – that’s always terrific to hear!!!

    Perhaps if you have a particular tip to share with those who were not successful you could post it here on the results thread https://opentuition.com/topic/acca-aaa-march-2020-exam-results-instant-poll-and-comments/
    Especially if you could endorse any of the article I’ve flagged – there are so many good resources and far too many candidates not even looking at them.

    April 13, 2020 at 2:40 pm #567976
    Kim Smith
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    Many thanks indeed for your post!

    April 13, 2020 at 3:28 pm #568015
    wyyy
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    You are very welcome!

    April 13, 2020 at 4:59 pm #568046
    Kim Smith
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    🙂 🙂 🙂

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