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Revenue recognition

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  • November 28, 2016 at 4:57 am #352039
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    Hi Mike,

    Contract price $8,000
    Costs incurred to date $2,900
    Estimated costs to completion $5,200
    Value of work certified to date $3,000
    Progress billings $3,400

    An old mineshaft has been discovered under the site and the costs of dealing with this have been taken into account in the calculation of estimated costs to completion. The company’s lawyers are reasonably confident that the customer will have to bear the additional costs which will be incurred in stabilizing the land. If negotiations are successful then the contract price will increase to $10m.

    The question did not raise contract price to $10m- but why not, if it’s probable and can be reliably measured?

    EDIT: I think the problem lies in “…are reasonably confident that the customer will have to bear the additional costs which….”
    Had the sentence been “…are reasonably confident that the customer will have to bear the additional costs and raise the contract price to $10m….” we would have recognized $10m instead of $8m, is that correct?

    Answer:
    Price $8,000
    Total costs $8,100
    Loss $(100)

    SOPL:
    Revenue $3,000
    Cost of sales $3,038
    Expected loss $(62)
    Loss $(100)

    SOFP:
    Costs incurred to date $2,900
    Loss $(100)
    Amounts invoiced $(3,400)
    Contract liability $600

    Hoping to hear from you, thank you πŸ™‚

    November 28, 2016 at 6:54 am #352083
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    What’s the name of the question and where’s it from?

    November 28, 2016 at 6:56 am #352085
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    Sorry, the question is from BPP study text question bank QNS 22

    November 28, 2016 at 7:12 am #352091
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    Ok, now give me the name please – I don’t have a BPP study text

    The reason I ask is because it sounds to me that there’s some vital piece of information missing from your post

    In addition, is this question in the context of contract accounting or is it within the context of contingencies and provisioning?

    November 28, 2016 at 7:26 am #352094
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    OK, the name of the company is C co. This question is in the context of contract accounting.

    I should have typed the full question out- sorry!

    C co is a civil engineering company. It started work on two construction projects during the year ended 31 December 2000. The nature of both contracts is that the customer controls the asset as the project goes forward. Work is certified by a surveyor as performance obligations are completed. The following figures relate to those projects at the end of the reporting period.

    Mary hill :
    Contract price $9000
    Costs incurred to date $1400
    Estimated costs to completion $5600
    Value of work certified to date $2800
    Progress billings $2600

    Rottenrow:
    Contract price $8000
    Costs incurred to date $2900
    Estimated costs to completion $5200
    Value of work certified to date $3000
    Progress billings $3400

    An old mineshaft has been discovered under the site for the rottenrow project and the costs of dealing with this have been taken into account in the calculation of estimated costs to completion. C co lawyers are reasonably confident that the customer will have to bear the additional costs which will be incurred in stabilizing the land. If negotiations are successful then the contract price will increase to $10m.

    C co recognizes revenues and profits on construction contracts on the basis of work certified to date.

    Calculate the figures which would appear in C co financial statements in respect of these two projects.

    Answer:
    Mary hill:
    SOPL-
    Revenue $2,800
    Recognized profit $622
    Cost of sale $2,178

    SOFP-
    Costs incurred to date $1,400
    Recognized profit $622
    Amounts invoiced $2,600
    Contract liability $578

    Rottenrow:
    SOPL-
    Revenue $3,000
    Recognized loss $100
    Cost of sales $3,100

    SOFP-
    Costs incurred to date $2,900
    Recognized loss $100
    Amounts invoiced $3,400
    Contract liability $600

    November 28, 2016 at 1:35 pm #352144
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    I think that you are correct …

    … “C co lawyers are reasonably confident ” does not give sufficient indication of certainty that the customer will be liable and so I believe that it would be wrong to treat the contract as being increased by that $2,000

    November 28, 2016 at 3:51 pm #352194
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    OK, I certainly hope the exam questions will not include any of such vague sentences! Thanks for your help πŸ™‚

    November 28, 2016 at 5:35 pm #352214
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    They most likely will be incapable of different interpretations

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