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Revaluation + Depreciation Help needed please (confused)

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  • November 15, 2012 at 10:49 am #55341
    lizzie
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    Hi could someone please help me on the following .

    Asset orginal cost $10,000 20×6 uel – 5 years
    Asset now revalued to $12,000 20×8 – UEL Remaining 3 years

    Why would we not account for the increase of $2,000 aS Revaluation surplus .

    Ans shows that – 20×8 Dr Asset (sofp) (after Dep) 6,000
    Cr Revaluation 6,000

    Why ????????????
    Next 3 Years increase in dep of 2,000

    Dr Revaluation $2,000
    Cr Retained Earnings $2,000

    November 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm #107517
    temi
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    Hi Lizzie, Of a truth, It can be confusing but i will take you through it.
    The best way to understand it is to prepare two column, one for historic cost as though the asset is never revalued and one for revalued cost as below

    PPE HCost Revaln Revaln Res
    20×6 cost 10000 10000
    20×8 acc depn (4000) (4000)
    CV 6000 6000
    Revaluation 12000 6000
    Depn (2000) 12/3 (4000) (2000)Excess depn
    Since the revaluation was credited to Rev Reserve, subsequent depn will not be charged completely to i/s since part of the gain on the increase is in reserve, so RR will be debited with 2k and credited to Retained Earning.

    Sorry, i couldnt get it to align but i hope u can make some sense out of it, otherwise let me know

    November 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm #107518
    lizzie
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    Thanks a million Temi , sorry im still a bit confused .

    November 20, 2012 at 12:04 am #107519
    temi
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    Hi, Sorry, i know you might not understand as the column went out of sync, i will try and explain,
    The initial cost was 10k depreciated over 5 yrs uel, so at 20X8, 2 yrs depn must have been charged leaving the asset at the NBV of 6K ( 10-4(2yrs charges).
    Assets then revalued to 12K giving rise to 6k of revaluation increase. i.e 12- 6(nbv) which is then taken to reserve. Hence the answer you have Dr Asset 6k(i.e increase the asset to 12K) and cr Reserve 6K ( revaluation).
    After the revaluation, the asset will still need to be depreciated over the remaining 3 yrs useful life on a straight line, hence the depn charge now becomes 4k per annum (12/3) as against 2k per annum( original depn charge before revaluation.
    Since the revaluation amount of 6k has now been taken to reserve, so the excess charge over the usual depn of 2k will go against reserve that enjoys the benefit of the increase in asset value.
    therefore only 2k of the new depn charge goes against income statement with the excess going agaist reserve. hence the answer Dr Reserve, Credit R/E.
    with 2k excess of the depn charges.
    I hope u understand, feel free to contact me if still confused

    November 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm #107520
    lizzie
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    Thanks a million , much appreciated .
    Was the revaluation that was confusing me …Thanks again

    November 28, 2012 at 7:45 am #107521
    Anonymous
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    Hi Temi,
    Thank you for your clear explaination, but I don’t really get the entry:
    Dr Reserve – 2k
    Cr RE – 2k
    I thought the depreciation of 4k would be accounted as follows:
    Dr RE – 2k
    Dr Reserve – 2k
    Cr Accumulation depreciation 4k

    November 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm #107522
    karmuks
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    After 2 years CV of asset is 8k (cost 12 less depn 2×2) which is revalued to 12k. So we have revaluation gain of 6k. Now as we usually do we charge same depn of 2k to IS and reducing revaluation reserve by excess depn of 2k (6k/ remaining 3 years).
    Entry:
    DR RE 2k
    DR Reserve 2k
    CR Asset 4k

    December 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm #107523
    Anonymous
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    @vivian1642006 said:
    Hi Temi,
    Thank you for your clear explaination, but I don’t really get the entry:
    Dr Reserve – 2k
    Cr RE – 2k

    The reason for this adjustment maybe for the reversal entry of the excess depreciation that have been charged to the Profit or Loss. For doing the console financial statement, the simple adjustment that we will make is juz reversal the wrong accounting transaction instead of eliminate the previous double entry and do it correct way.

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