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- March 26, 2020 at 9:28 pm #565974
Thanks GillianM, i would keep you posted when i get the letter from the ACO
April 29, 2020 at 4:36 pm #569542Hi Gillian
I was a student who submitted the project for period 38 and had my result withheld. The ACO however concluded it to be academic negligence and requested me to resubmit the project.
However, recently I got an email from OBU with my feedback report attached which indicated that my research report has been passed and has been awarded Grade ‘A’. It is only my SLS she has failed due to similarities with other student SLS. As such OBU confirmed I am only required to resubmit the SLS again.
I just wanted to clarify from you when I resubmit the SLS should it be a completely new one or can I just amend only the phrases which are shown as copied in the Turnitin report my ACO sent to me?
April 29, 2020 at 5:54 pm #569545First off – congratulations for getting a Grade A!
Think about this – you obviously drew on another student’s SLS wheres the whole purpose of the statement is that you should be self-reflecting on your own personal development and learning experience.
So if you sit down and think about your own strengths and weaknesses and your own skill set that developed as you researched collated, analysed and evaluated the information and consider the challenges that you faced in achieving your report objectives and how you addressed these and how this will all affect your future prospects – and then write about these honestly, you will have solved the existing problem!
May 9, 2020 at 12:54 am #570360Hello GIllianM,
I finally got contacted today by the ACO, the Turnitin report on my SLS showed 35% match! To be honest I never knew the SLS was to be referenced or exact words placed on quotation marks. I have been going through the guides and saw emphasis on the RAP but never on SLS hence my attention to details was on the RAP. How do you think I should be present myself in my response. Tnks
May 12, 2020 at 4:01 pm #570644Hi Gillian
Thanks ?
As per the turnitin report the ACO sent me there were only few paragraphs which were a match to another SLS.
I have redrafted my SLS for resubmission with the same experience as before SLS but have expressed the experience in different way.
I’m afraid whether it will be ok. Is it possible for you to review my new SLS together with the turnitin report and advice me if the new one I have drafted is ok to submit? It will be a great help if you could do this .
May 13, 2020 at 5:51 pm #570739@writesammieq – if your SLS has a score of 35% this means that about 700 of your words match to other students’ SLSs. This would normally only happen if have seen other people’s statements – I am confident that none of my own students’ SLSs would show many similarities at all because I never let them see any previous students’statements or provide so-called ‘samples’. So probably the only thing that would be the same would be the actual questions to be answered so about 80 -100 words overall.
Referencing has nothing to do with it -copying phrases and sentences from other students is what it is all about!
May 13, 2020 at 5:53 pm #570740@ash05- Possibly – but can’t your own mentor do this for you?
May 14, 2020 at 10:37 am #570800Hi Gillian
My mentor did review it but he only commented on whether the SLS is in line with the requirements specified. However, he did not do much of a comparison between the new SLS and the turnitin report.
Since I have redrafted my new SLS with the similar ideas I am afraid whether it will again show a match and result in my submission being withheld.
As you have been an ACO officer, I trust you have much more experience in reviewing this. I would be glad if you could compare my new SLS and the turnitin report and advice me if that is fine.
Please let me know how I can forward you the documents for your review.
May 16, 2020 at 8:27 pm #571058Sorry for the delay in getting back to you -been busy with my mentees
The key is to look at your new version and the previous Turnitin report. It is a bit of a slog comparing the two even if you have access to Turnitin – (which I no longer have). The matching score normally will always be high with a resubmission . Even then n fact it is not so easy with a resubmitted piece of work to check what matches with the first submission (which will normally be ok) and what was highlighted in the first Turnitin report as being matched elsewhere (which is not ok) – though normally they will show as different coloured text. So what I am saying is that even the next marker won’t find it a walk in the park….
Ideally a newly written statement is the best way to go as any matches will be minimal. But if you have substantially rewritten the problem areas and there wasn’t a particularly high score first time around you should be all right. Good luck!
May 23, 2020 at 6:28 pm #571677Hi Gillian
I have a query please
My project has been referred to ACO and they concluded the investigation starting “This is a breach of Student Conduct Regulation 4.4.1 and I have imposed a penalty of a fail grade for this piece of work. If you are eligible you may re-submit your RAP. You are permitted to resubmit the same project but with corrections.”
So does this mean I only have to resubmit RR
and resubmission statement?Could you please advice on this?
Also would they provide me the feedback on this project?
Thank
May 24, 2020 at 5:37 am #571706Having given a fail for 4.1.1. you won’t receive feedback as they have decided that there is evidence it is not all your own original work. So therefore they cannot tell you what you must do to improve it except rewrite it with corrections I.e. removing copied content and providing your own commentary
If you got a Turnitin report that will show which sections were lifted from elsewhere and those are what need to be corrected. As you were awarded a fail fir your whole piece of work that means you have to resubmit the lot.
May 25, 2020 at 7:01 am #571790Hi Gillian
Initially my ACO also imposed a fail grade for my project under Student Regulations 4.1.1.
However, after few months they sent me an email saying after decision of ACO please find the marker feedback report for my project. This feedback report indicated my RR has been passed but only my SLS has been awarded fail grade.
When I inquired from OBU whether I need to resubmit only my SLS they confirmed that only the SLS needs to be resubmitted.
Just wanted to clarify with you whether this scenario can happen where the ACO awarded fail grade and then sent the feedback report indicating only SLS has been failed and not the RR?
May 25, 2020 at 11:00 pm #571837I m not sure what you are asking me here as it is not clear what your question is so, I don’t know if I have answered it….
Most ACO cases involve either made up data where a student says they have carried out a survey but it is obvious the data is fabricated or work that has been copied.
Turnitin the checking program will flag up passages in either the report or SLS which have been matched to either other previously published material or another student or both I.e involves some copying.
In your case they obviously thought the report was relatively untainted (some matching is inevitable, it is a matter of how much), but the score was ok. As it was not judged to be copied it was therefore passed. However they obviously felt the SLS had too high a matching score and failed it. To get a pass overall you need to pass both the report and SLS section so it will be recorded as a fail if your SLS is failed but the report passed – however once the SMS is passed your overall grade will reflect the original report grade.
July 27, 2020 at 11:03 am #578177Hi Gillian/Trephena,
I submitted my project in P40, my mentor was in the registered list of mentors in P39. However, checking recently for P41 – the name isn’t in the approved list of mentors.
Can i be failed if the mentor’s name doesn’t appear in the P40 list of mentors as i submitted in this period? Is there any reason the name can not appear in the registered list of mentors?.
Also, the only details of mentor i was asked when submitting in P40 was the full name and topic – no email or even ACCA member number. Is this okay?
Please advice. Thanks.
July 28, 2020 at 6:43 pm #578513I think you should be all right – so I advise you not to panic provided you did your work yourself. There can be all sorts of reasons that the mentor name is not showing. For example with the new website all mentors were asked to confirm their details so that the list of mentors was up to date. If your mentor failed to confirm their details their name may not have been transferred over.
Occasionally if a mentor has a significant number of ACO cases which indicate a breach of mentoring standards they can be removed. However if your work was original and all your own there should not be an issue. If there is a question mark about it in the first instance your work will be referred to the ACO for investigation but I would suggest that you don’t worry about something that may never happen….
July 29, 2020 at 7:28 am #578538Thank you Trephena.
November 17, 2020 at 7:40 am #595257Has anyone received comments from ACO for results withheld for period 40?
December 8, 2020 at 7:36 am #598291My project for period 40 was referred to ACO but i haven’t received any comment from ACO as of yet. Any idea why it is taking so long? It has been more than 2 months since my case was referred to ACO.
December 9, 2020 at 5:22 am #598706I have also not heard from the officer. 🙁
Hoping for a positive response by end of this year.
December 21, 2020 at 7:59 am #600441Any update on reply from ACO? Did anyone received it yet?
January 5, 2021 at 10:30 am #601490Hi,
I submitted my RAP in period 40 and my case was referred to ACO. However, its been 3 months now and i have not receive any communication from an ACO. I once emailed and received a reply that i should wait further few weeks. Does this means that my report might be clear and there might be no querry to be made by ACO?January 6, 2021 at 12:35 pm #601728Unfortunately I think it is more likely to indicate that they have a backlog.
You are not the only student who has been waiting this long – and it is deplorable as it leaves you in limbo.
I can only suggest ‘Pester Power’ – email each week and possibly say that being kept waiting this length of time is unreasonable as you need to be able to plan your studies effectively!
January 12, 2021 at 6:34 am #605568Hello. No response till now.
January 12, 2021 at 9:16 pm #605670ACO is quite, it’s now over 3 months. I’m getting worried what’s going on.
January 12, 2021 at 9:22 pm #605671Did any of you emailed to OBU since ACO is quite? What was there response ?
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