- May 4, 2018 at 10:08 pm
As always I advise you to cooperate -I’ve heard if you own up straightaway you are more likely to get a lighter punishment. The students who maintain innocence when there is strong evidence against them are fools really as it prolongs the investigation and annoys the ACO and therefore they end up with the worst of both worlds- a higher penalty and often the penalty resubmission fee GBP 600
You are probably looking at academic negligence if you are very, very lucky or realistcally academic malpractice. If you are unlucky then they could give you Misconduct and the Penalty resubmission fee. You will probably get a fail anyway and usually end up having to submit on a totally different company regardless. However on the bright side you are normally allowed to resubmit (and that should certainly be the case for a 24% score), so it’s not the end of the line
The most incriminating thing may be the SLS and the 10%, Depends if this percentage is 10% of everything ((7,500 + 2,000) *10%) or 2,000 *10% – the difference is about 950 words in the first scenario or 200 words for the second.
200 words in an SLS might be explainable – anything more than this is harder to explain away. Once they see similarities in the written work they might also look at the other files too. Like I say if you know you did it, fess up and hope for the best.May 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm
My friend in recent attempt was referred to ACO, and had 25-35% matching. He accepted his mistake in first e-mail, and the investigator gave him least penalty, no fine nothing. Just a re-submission fee.
EhsanMay 7, 2018 at 11:03 am
Confirms what I have said – Fess up if you are guilty!May 23, 2018 at 4:22 am
I submit my thesis 2nd time ACO asked me how to improve Allot i give explanation i use Grammarly software and you tube videos but waiting since 15 day ACO not yet reply .please guide me i should contact to my Aco as 2 month has been pass to result anounceMay 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
For some reason your earlier post:
“Hi I don’t know any 1 can help me or not .
I submit my rab 2nd time this time I have been asked how I did allot improvements in sentence ,grammerly and the vacabery? I told him I used gramerly software . today 10 days has been passed but I have not got any responce from aco.
Please tell me after how many days i should contact with ACO. If i have not get response. As 2 month already has been passed for result announcement”
and my reply from yesterday have both disappeared into the ether
so I have re-posted your original query above and my answer below:
“I think they try to resolve ACO cases within 2 months but this is a general guide. Some cases are more complex than others and sometimes other students may be implicated so they are waiting to compare responses and someone’s case is always going to be last. So 2 months though a target is an average.
I think you will just have to sit it out and expect it may be at least another week or 10 days before you get a follow up from them. However you could send a polite enquiry as a reminder…”May 23, 2018 at 4:28 pm
Thanks for your guidance, your guidance give me support ,as since my RAP is refer to ACO i am mentally upset there for i was unable to do my job properly. So i decided to take holidays.
I am unable to do any thing properly, every signal night i wake up to sea whether i get any response or not .
Can you imagun i was checking every 4th minutes my email. So as when the last email i got from ACO after 4th minutes i was checking my email. Any way i will wate 10 days more.
But thanks for your guidance.May 23, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Well I think you could send the following:
Dear Sir/ Madam (- IF YOU DON’T KNOW WHETHER IT IS A MALE OR FEMALE OFFICER)
I hope that you don’t mind that I am enquiring about my case as I have not heard anything from you since ….. (ENTER THE DATE THAT YOU REPLIED OR LAST SENT YOUR INFORMATION)
The fact that I have been referred is causing me a lot of stress and I find that I am not able to concentrate properly at work and it would help me if you could provide an update on my case. If there is any further information from me that is needed then I would be happy to provide it to assist you.
NAME and REG NO.
(I think sometimes when they get a personal reminder they may attend to it sooner – let’s hope so for your sake – good luck! And please let us know how you get on – Trephena)May 25, 2018 at 4:31 am
Thanks for reply, I was writing an email suddenly I don’t know my computer restart, when I open my email I got resonce they need further evidence.
Any way thanks for the guidance. After your response I fell mentally relax.May 25, 2018 at 10:27 am
Please advic ACO is issue a letter in which she clearly stste
You have no case for answer the question. I will said to head office to release your result ?
Only 25% plagiarism we found it is due to resubmi.
So please tell me every thing is one now .
Thanks for guiding every signal question.May 25, 2018 at 11:18 am
That’s good. It seems your case may have been concluded. However could you copy and paste her actual words as I want to be absolutely certain as I don’t understand the English in the sentence: “So please tell me every thing is one now ?”May 25, 2018 at 11:51 am
1. Your project was passed through Turnitin and an overall match of 25% was identified. The
majority of this matching was to your own previous submission.
2. Thank you for providing an explanation and evidence to support the marked improvement
in your resubmission.
As such, I am pleased to be able to inform you that you have no case to answer and I will be advising
the admin office to release your result.
You may wish to refer to the Student Conduct Regulations and Procedure which is available on the
Brookes website at https://www.brookes.ac.uk/regulations/current/appeals-complaints-andMay 25, 2018 at 11:53 am
Please advice me further.May 25, 2018 at 11:56 am
Every thing is fine?May 25, 2018 at 1:21 pm
Perfect! You can chill now…May 25, 2018 at 6:56 pm
Thanks, sir.June 26, 2018 at 2:15 pm
Guys i want to ask i am going to resubmit my protect i want to ask do i need to change my financial statements data from 2014 2015 2016 to 2015 2016 2017 or not? Problem is i have to make some changes to my project because when my result released it identified problem with my references and also the colour of graph of both companies were same and i have to make appropriate changes now i am confused if i update my financial data will it cause me a problem or not please help me i am confusedJune 27, 2018 at 8:29 am
The rules were changed a year or two back and now provided you are resubmitting within 4 periods of your first submission you do NOT have to update your resubmission and include the very latest financial information.
Of course if you want to update then you can, it is your decision. I think if it were me it would depend on what weaknesses I had failed on. If it was evaluation then I think it would be easier doing a better evaluation using the latest info so in that case I would revise and update
In your case this doesn’t seem to be the issue. Can’t you just reformat the graphs? Provided also you can do referencing to the required standard (see Appendix 3 of the Information Pack and our ‘Open Tuition Ultimate Guide to Referencing your RAP’ – the link to latter is on our homepage) then there may be no particular need to rewrite your work.July 29, 2018 at 7:01 pm
I want to ask that are WhatsApp messages with mentor while making project are important evidence? because my phone was broken approxomately 2 weeks earlier and I am unable to restore my WhatsApp chat with my mentor.and as you know I am resubmitting the improved version of my project that is why I will send only one email in November which will contain my final project for final review.now I want to ask is single email containing my final project for final review is enough for evidence or should I send my mentor multiple emails containing my project at multiple stages?2 I have screenshot of my chat with my mentor are screenshots of WhatsApp are enough evidence? Because as I already know how a project is made already that is why I have not contacted my mentor since early July and I will not contact him until I send my project for final review.so please guide me is my approach regarding contacting my mentor is right or should I contact him more frequently? Please help me because I don’t want my project reffered to ACO and if it gets reffered I want to have clear and sufficient evidence so I don’t get in trouble. I am afraid because as stated earlier my rap was reffered to ACO last November and for this time I want to make sure I don’t get reffered to ACO and if I got reffered I am ready.please help I am in great tension because of my WhatsApp and messages loss and I am not sure should I contact with my mentor againfor evidence purpose and ask the things which I know already because of my experience in making my old project so please reply me as soon as possible I will be very thankful to youAugust 1, 2018 at 5:30 pm
You will only end up as an ACO case if there is doubt about the authenticity of your work. It is always good to have a couple of emails to and from your mentor which show how you developed your work. Normally for example there will be a draft from you and a document that updates the draft with some comments or a separate sheet of comments appended to the email back.
I would have expected the communication between a student and mentor to comprise more than a few WhatsApp chat messages however if you are resubmitting then possibly there might not be the need for much in the way of emails it you worked on together in a previous period.
I realise that as you were an ACO case previously of course you are worried again but from the messages you posted it was mainly your SLS that was the problem. The SLS is something the student should be doing without the mentor as it involves reflecting on their own development and learning. If you ensure that you do this for yourself based on your own learning and development experience there really should not be a problem – the issues arise when students take ideas and sentences from an other student’s work as clearly it is not their own self-reflection then.
Please instead of worrying about something that may never happen focus on making improvements to your workAugust 2, 2018 at 2:50 pm
Thanks mam the reason for my questions was my mentor has told me that I should only send one email to him and that is for final review only because i am resubmitting and I already worked with him . And I was confuse is one email enough or not? Furthermore I will submit my project after checking it on write check so the problem which happened earlier will not happen again.August 9, 2018 at 7:28 pm
Also there are some things I forgot to tell you
1 I have screenshots of my WhatsApp chat , messages and call records with my mentor because for keeping my self safe whenever I contacted him I also took a screenshot and uploaded it on my drive . I am unable to backup my WhatsApp app and messages on my new mobile but thankfully I had my screenshots on drive which I can send as an evidence if needed.
2 I am using the same mentor for my resubmission and due to this he has suggested me to send him only one email containing all my files for final review only
3 I am updating my whole project for eg
Financial analysis containing updated year etc to make sure I get obu bsc this time .
4 mam once my project is finalized I will check it on write check and tell you the result and consult you about it before submission. And once again thanks mamAugust 10, 2018 at 12:05 pm
Good that you amending your work. Focus too on addressing the marker feedback as you will be expected to have improved all the areas mentioned in the feedback.
If you are concerned about plagiarism then yes you could use Writecheck however you need to understand how this program works. As you are resubmitting it would be normal for WriteCheck to pick up matches to your earlier work so do not be alarmed! However what you need to do then is look at the Turnitin report (I presume the ACO sent you this?) and ensure that the passages highlighted on the Turnitin report are not also highlighted again on the WriteCheck report .
As it seems that you had previous issues with the SLS you need to ensure that the WriteCheck report shows few matches with anything (apart from perhaps the 4 Questions and the odd few phrases here and there).
So don’t concern yourself with points 1 & 2 rather focus on the report analysis, feedback and any areas of weakness the marker highlighted. Then allow plenty of time to analyse any issues from the WriteCheck report. So my advice is to finish your work and put it through a WriteCheck at least 2 weeks before submission otherwise you may not have the time to chance thingsAugust 26, 2018 at 9:36 pm
Thank you very much mam from your response I have kept in mind to complete my work before October 10 and will check it on write check before 15 October to make sure I can make changes in my work if required now one last question which I want to ask ?
Please answer it and all doubts in my mind will be cleared
1 I use my brother laptop for making my project I also use it in my earlier project. Now I came to know from a friend that every file which is saved on a computer has username in it’s properties now I want to ask will it cause me a problem or not? If yes should I email obu about it or should I mention about it in my sls or resubmission report or should I ignore it as stated above I made my old project on the same laptop? Please reply as soon as possible I will be thankful to youAugust 27, 2018 at 8:07 am
If it wasn’t raised as an issue last time then stop worrying about it!
I use various devices myself, two of which have been given to me by my partner so my files either show my name or ‘user’ depending on which they were written on. This is probably very normal these days and on its own is not going to cause issuesAugust 27, 2018 at 9:45 am
Thanks mam now I am tension free the only issue which was raised in my previous project was some part of my sls was matched with someone as I told you in my previous posts and I got zero graded. That is why I will use write check this time to verify this doesn’t happen again also to address the marker issues I am writing my rap completely new containing my old company and topic containing updated financial year for financial analysis etc to improve my grammar composition of English and structure of my rap furthermore I also believe using updated financial year will reduce my write check plaegeurism score Plus I also consult you also look on other websites to remove any doubt in my mind regarding questions about submission that is why thank you very much for help you have released my mind from any tension I will also ask you if I have any other questions in my mind in future
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