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Recoverable amount (RA) in RK/Q39 (Minny) Vs RA in RK/Q44(Traveller)

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  • This topic has 8 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • December 3, 2014 at 10:58 am #216749
    huongnt
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    Dear Mike,

    In above questions Question give information about recoverable amount of sub in their individual FS to caculate impaiment of G/will. However the solution in each question have different treatment with such RA
    In Q39 RA is used to compare with adjusted total asset (from $1130mil) while in Q44 compared with adjusted net asset (or total equity, from $1079mil)

    Please help me clear on this. What is the diff between the two treatment?

    Thank you so much.

    December 3, 2014 at 11:55 am #216779
    MikeLittle
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    Huong, I don’t have the BPP revision kit available so I shall need the exam reference. However, I believe that I have been asked this before and, from memory (I could be wrong), is there not a line in one of the questions that says that recoverable amount should be measured against total assets rather than against net assets?

    December 4, 2014 at 1:30 am #217159
    huongnt
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    Oh Mike, sorry. The question is in Dec2011 for Traveler and Minny is from Dec12Question.
    Looking forward to your help. Thank you.

    December 4, 2014 at 1:33 am #217161
    huongnt
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    However I not found any further information as your concern.

    December 4, 2014 at 8:31 am #217210
    MikeLittle
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    The last sentence in note 3 of the question tells us that all the liabilities relate to financing operations. Effectively what we have been given is net assets (if all the liabilities relate to financing)

    Ok?

    December 4, 2014 at 1:00 pm #217315
    huongnt
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    Sorry Mike, I still confuse.
    Last sentence note 3 is that the RA had been determined WITHOUT consideration of liabilities which all related to the financing of operation.
    So I think it must be net asset. But actually solution is total asset. Net asset is 879 and total asset is 1130. Pls help me.

    By the way if the question just give RA of sub for impairment test so we can understand it is to compare with net asset(Not total asset/ or total equity and liab)?
    Luckily I know Opentuition. Thanks for your support Mike.

    December 4, 2014 at 4:01 pm #217434
    MikeLittle
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    Liabilities that relate to financing are matters like deferred tax and finance lease creditors

    The question is pointing you towards comparing recoverable amount with the asset figure given and effectively telling you to forget about the liabilities

    Normally we would compare with net assets but in that particular question he wants you to compare with total assets

    Actually, if you think about it, there is more chance of an impairment when compared with net assets than with total assets.

    But that’s irrelevant here – he’s pushing you to make that comparison with total. Don’t fight against him – if that’s what he wants you to do, do it! 🙂

    December 5, 2014 at 6:26 am #217789
    huongnt
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    Thanks Mike. I got it.

    December 5, 2014 at 6:58 am #217798
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    You’re welcome

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