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recognition of assets

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FA – FIA FFA › recognition of assets

  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • June 6, 2015 at 3:12 pm #254516
    muradn
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    Hi John
    i have confused something related to the recognition of assests.

    it is stated that asset is recognised in the fin.statements when the inflow of econ.benefits to entity is PROBABLE. But we know if inflow of economic benefits to entity is probable, it should be contingent asset, and it should not be recognised , it should be diclosed.
    if it is so, then why it is stated asset is recognised in the fin.statements when the inflow of econ.benefits to entity is PROBABLE?
    i think it should be stated like this: asset should be recognised when the inflow of economic benefits to entity is CERTAIN, not probable. i am not right?

    June 6, 2015 at 4:26 pm #254546
    John Moffat
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    I don’t understand why you say “it is stated that asset is recognised in the fin.statements when the inflow of econ.benefits to entity is PROBABLE”

    Our free Lecture Notes and lectures do not say that because it is not true!!

    If it is certain it is recognised, if it is probably then it is disclosed by note.

    That is what our Lecture Notes and lectures say, and they are correct 🙂

    June 7, 2015 at 11:04 am #254732
    muradn
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    in the book of ACCA ( F7- Financial reporting). there is a sentence like this:

    !) Item – Asset

    2) Recognised in – The statement of financial
    position

    3)When – It is probable that the future economic benefits will flow to the
    entity and the asset has a cost or value that can be measured
    reliably.

    and i ask you that it is true?

    June 7, 2015 at 11:16 am #254735
    John Moffat
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    Ahhh – now that is something different.

    I assumed in your first question that you were taking about contingent assets – which is where the possibility of receiving benefit depends on something that cannot be controlled by the company. In which case it is only recognised if it is certain, and applies to such things as income that might result due to a court case that has not yet been heard.

    In other more general cases, an asset is recognised when there is expected to be a future benefit. (If it was only if we were absolutely certain that we would get an economic.
    benefits, then we would never recognise any assets!!)

    June 7, 2015 at 11:46 am #254752
    muradn
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    i am sorry but i did not understand well. can u explain comprehensively? please explain me, why here it is said asset is recognised when It is probable (why not certain?) that the future economic benefits will flow to the entity? if it is so, if it is recognised when the inflow of benefit is probable, then we can say that contingent assets must be recognised. in the finan.statements. because in contingent assets the inflow of ec,benefit is probable too.

    June 7, 2015 at 4:08 pm #254822
    John Moffat
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    No.

    Contingent assets exists where there is possible income but it depends on the outcome of some future event that is outside the control of the company.

    In that case, the rule is as per IAS 37

    That is a completely different situation from conventional assets where the event has already taken place – the company has bought a machine; they have bought inventory; they have sold goods on credit. In normal use of english, probably and reasonable certain mean the same thing – it is only in the case of IAS 37 that the words are defined in terms of percentages.

    (I really think you are worrying about it too much for Paper F3 🙂 )

    June 7, 2015 at 7:04 pm #254907
    muradn
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    yeah )

    now i understood well, Thank you for your explanation

    June 8, 2015 at 6:25 am #255019
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

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