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  • December 11, 2016 at 10:14 am #363217
    ryan32
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    a company produces and sells product whose variable cost is $6

    fixed cost have been absorbed over the normal level of activity of 200000 units and have been calculated as $2 per unit, selling price is $10 /unit
    how much profit is made under marginal costing if company sells 250000 units.

    solution,
    each unit selling price is 10
    variable cost/unit is 6
    so contribution is $4/unit
    so total contribution is (250000×4)= 1000000

    upto this its all right.my question is in book they are subtractiong $400000 as overhead period cost from contribution; profit is $600000

    my question is when nothing is being told about actual overhead incurred, will we assume it to be same as total absorbed overhead ; 200000 units x 2 = 400000.

    and extra 50000 units sold are opening stock and as per marginal costing it will not have any share of OAR.

    December 11, 2016 at 12:20 pm #363241
    ryan32
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    another question i have is there have been a question i faced related to standard marginal costing.
    i wanna know in standard marginal costing statement which fixed overhead we need to substract from contribution.Is it the budgeted o/h or actual o/h incurred.how its possible to find out standard fixed overhead……….will it be same as absorbed overhead

    December 11, 2016 at 12:47 pm #363248
    John Moffat
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    It is the actual fixed overhead that is subtracted to get the actual profit.

    If you are not told the actual fixed overhead then you assume that it the same as the total budgeted fixed overhead (which in your first post is indeed 400,000). Fixed overheads should stay fixed by definition and so it is irrelevant how many units they actually produce when using marginal costing.

    December 11, 2016 at 1:21 pm #363262
    ryan32
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    related to standard marginal costing question says

    A company uses standard absorption costing.Its fixed oar is $12/labor hr and each unit of production take 4 hrs. 20000 units were produced using 100000 labor hrs,18000 units were sold.The actual profit is $464000
    what profit will be under standard marginal costing

    the answer says $368000.
    so here the standard hr for 20000 units is 20000×4=80000 hrs
    so standard costing system means o/h is absorbed on 80000 hrs and not 100000 hrs.
    so since nothing is being told about actual overhead we will consider it same as absorbed o/h.
    Marginal profit should be $368000 as 2000 units of closing inventory is carrying forward the share of o/h which is 96000.
    am i right?

    December 11, 2016 at 1:46 pm #363267
    ryan32
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    so in above question we will consider the actual overhead same as budgeted fixed o/h; which will be again same as absorbed o/h.am i right?

    December 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm #363278
    John Moffat
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    It is irrelevant how many units the overheads are absorbed over because you are not asked to prepare a profit statement (and it would be impossible anyway).

    The inventory increases by 2,000 units and the standard fixed overheads per unit are 4 x $12 = $48.
    Therefore the absorption profit is higher than the marginal profit by 2,000 x $48 = $96,000.

    Anything else is irrelevant to the question (and not possible anyway).

    December 11, 2016 at 3:36 pm #363286
    ryan32
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    okay i got it

    sir one last think i wanna ask that i know the term ‘standard material or standard labor time’ , like as per standard it should take 4 units of material to produce a complete product.
    i’m clear about the budget and actual fixed overhead term.

    i’m confused about the term ‘standard overhead’,
    what does it refer to, is it the predetermined rate that we calculate out i.e; OAR?,if it so does that mean overhead absorbed by units is the standard o/h itself. or they both are different
    im confusing on these term,plz help

    December 12, 2016 at 6:49 am #363341
    John Moffat
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    Standard is the same as budgeted.

    Standard overhead will normally mean the budgeted overhead per unit (unless the question says it is e.g. the standard overhead per hour).

    December 12, 2016 at 7:47 am #363382
    ryan32
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    okay now its clear

    so overhead absorption rate is the standard predetermined rate we find out ,and its absorbed by the cost units based on actual activity level, like actual labor or machine hours worked.

    In case of above question related to standard absorption, overhead rate is calculated on standard hrs of each unit i.e; 4 hrs rather than actual hrs.

    December 12, 2016 at 9:06 am #363404
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    that makes it call standard fixed overhead as OAR is calculated on standard hrs……so u also use that term standard fixed overhead in ur above reply

    standard fixed overheads per unit are 4 x $12 = $48.

    December 12, 2016 at 11:14 am #363434
    John Moffat
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    Correct.

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