Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FR Exams › Query on NCI
- This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by
MikeLittle.
- AuthorPosts
- March 24, 2016 at 12:35 am #308044
H acquired 60% of the 500,000 $1 shares in S for $470,000. At that date the S retained earnings were $200,000. Goodwill has been impaired
by 40%
if the directors valued the goodwill attributable to the nci at $15,000
What would be the value of the NCI in this case?Would it be ((500,000+200,000)*40%)+15,000=295,000
or ((500,000+200,000)*60%)+15,000=435,000I think it is the first one since it takes the NCI’s share of subsidary net assets
But in the mini questions section they have taken H’s share of subsidary net assets
Please let me know which is the correct oneMarch 24, 2016 at 10:04 am #308081Please give me a page reference / chapter reference / question number
March 25, 2016 at 1:30 am #308147Page 201
4. Goodwill Impairments
Question1(c)
Question2(c)
Question3(c)The answer for the above questions are on page 230, 231 and 232
March 25, 2016 at 10:30 am #308250The questions ask you for the value of the goodwill, not the value of the nci!
We can’t find the value of the nci because we don’t know the extent of the subsidiary post acquisition retained earnings
March 28, 2016 at 1:16 am #308435Sorry.. The question asked us for the Goodwill. We need the NCI Investment valuation for the calculation of goodwill. So that’s the calculation I’m talking about which needs to be checked.
March 28, 2016 at 7:38 am #308443You don’t need the value of the nci investment! You are told that the nci GOODWILL is $XXX
Therefore the nci investment value is equal to their proportionate share of fair valued net assets + their goodwill
Have you not watched the lectures? I go through that in great detail within the lectures
March 29, 2016 at 1:30 am #308529I don’t think you understood what I am asking for. The NCI’s proportionate share of fair value of net assets is what I am talking about here. I am writing the entire question and the answer as given in the notes.
H acquired 60% of the 500,000 $1 shares in S for $470,000. At that date the S retained earnings were $200,000. Goodwill has been impaired by 40%
Calculate the goodwill figure which will appear on the statement of financial position if the if the directors valued the goodwill attributable to the NCI at $15,000Answer given is as follows
Cost of Investment 470,000
NA@DOA 700,000
H’s Share(60%) (420,000)
Difference 50,000
NCI Goodwill 15,000
Total Goodwill 65,000
Impairment (40%) (26,000)
Net 39,000Now should that NA @ DOA be H’s share or NCI share? Don’t you think it should be NCI share of 40% rather than H’s share of 60%?
March 29, 2016 at 8:43 am #308552I fully understand your question!
Let’s try it this way:
Cost of acquisition 470,000
Nci investment = proportional share of net assets + their share of goodwill
(ie ((40% x 700,000) + 15,000) = 295,000Total value of investment in S is 470,000 + 295,000 = 765,000
Value of net assets is 700,000
So goodwill is 65,000
It’s impaired by 40% ie by 26,000
So goodwill in answer to the question is 39,000The answer that you have written above is correct. That answer is looking specifically at finding the goodwill attributable to the parent (50,000) and then adding on the nci goodwill (15,000 – given in the question)
I ask again – have you watched the lectures where I go through this in detail?
March 30, 2016 at 5:57 am #308648Thanks. Yes I have watched the lectures. Just got confused in the way they arrived at the answers.
March 30, 2016 at 6:40 am #308650You’re welcome
- AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.