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Q1, june 2013: loan Note consideration interest?

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FR Exams › Q1, june 2013: loan Note consideration interest?

  • This topic has 8 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • November 11, 2014 at 12:13 pm #209074
    Anton
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    Hello Mike,

    I can’t see in the acca answers, that there was any interest paid for the 1500€ loan note, which was a part of the consideration.

    The loan note has to be added to the consolidated statement regarding the acca answer. Why do they not deduct the interest (1500*0,1*6/12) from retained earnings ( db retained earnings 75 cr bank 75)?

    Thanks A

    November 11, 2014 at 3:55 pm #209147
    MikeLittle
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    If the credit entry is “bank” then the debit entry MUST have been made already

    Is the loan interest not included within a finance charge expense figure?

    November 11, 2014 at 6:40 pm #209174
    Anton
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    Hello,

    No, there is no charge on retained earnings (income statement is not questioned, so no information about finance cost). The loan is not recognised in the statement, because it is a part of consideration (goodwill) and there it is not debited to bank, it is debited to goodwill in the first place.

    Is there a mistake in the official acca answers, or am I wrong?

    November 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm #209496
    Anton
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    No idea?

    November 12, 2014 at 10:53 pm #209497
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    @antonk1983 said:
    No idea?

    Mike is not a cyborg with internet connected to his brain 24h a day 😉

    Just out of interest, did you check revision lectures?
    https://opentuition.com/acca/f7/acca-f7-revision-kit/

    November 13, 2014 at 11:47 am #209594
    Anton
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    Sorry…

    I checked the lectures… I know the theory, it is a practical question wether the interest must be recognised or not…

    November 13, 2014 at 3:58 pm #209685
    MikeLittle
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    Hi Anton, because is no indication of any loan interest accrual given in the question, we have to assume that it has already been included in arriving at this year’s 7,400 profit for the Paradigm year

    November 13, 2014 at 4:04 pm #209766
    Anton
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    Thanks Mike

    This is really a weak form of question from the acca, since they assume, that the loan note is not recognised in the FS…

    November 13, 2014 at 4:20 pm #209782
    MikeLittle
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    No! The question TELLS you that the loan note part of the consideration has NOT been recorded

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