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ACCA Ethics & Professional Skills Module

Problem in calculating outsourcing cost

Ssarmadkhalid456y ago
Telford Engineering has identified a global business services partner off-shore. The annual cost of outsourcing the accounting function per annum is forecast to be $292,000. The GBS Company will take over the highly systemised and transactional operations of payables, receivables, payroll and credit control. Long-term asset and treasury and cash management will remain in-house. Outsourcing would take place immediately following MEXIT (in about one year’s time) and annual outsourcing costs are estimated to remain constant over time. The total cost of making the staff redundant under the outsource option is estimated to be 25% of their current annual salaries. Outsourcing would mean that 40% of the other non-staff accounting department costs could be saved each year. The retained skeleton staff, post-outsourcing, will be paid at 20% more than their current salaries. Note: The remaining staff to be retained under the Outsource Option will be as follows: Head of Accounting (unchanged salary) + 2 Fully Qualified (FQ) Accountants and one Part Qualified (PQ) Accountant Had done in several ways but got incorrect answer.
KimKimTutor6y ago#1
But what is the requirement? Are you looking for just first year impact on profit/cash flows? Or at longer time horizon? Are you required to consider the time value of money? The decision to outsource has: An annual cost in perpetuity of $292k A one-off cost (25% of $x amount) of making staff redundant An annual saving (40% of accounting department costs that are not staff costs - because the department is smaller) A 20% increase in annual cost for the retained staff (because they have more responsibilities).
Ssarmadkhalid456y ago#2
there are 2 other costs are given in accountancy department..1 is amortisation of non current asset and second is admin costs of material and variable overheads...I have tried to taking 40 of them but still got incorrect ans
KimKimTutor6y ago#3
Perhaps there is something to indicate that the amortisation of non-current asset should be ignored. If this is a decision-making requirement, amortisation (like depreciation) is not a cash flow and so not a relevant cost/saving and should therefore be ignored.
Ssarmadkhalid456y ago#4
can you please give me a formate toby which i can calculate the outsourcing cost as I have tried even taking 40% of only material and variable overheads..but still got incorrect ans...
KimKimTutor6y ago#5
As I said, tutors do not have access to the final assessment - so I do not know what it asks. Perhaps you are entering the answer incorrectly - if answer is required as $000s it would be 40 not 40000 for example. I did not even know that you have to get all Qs correct - I assumed there was 50% pass mark on the final assessment.
Ccandidate3y ago#6
I can not get the rigth answer still. For outsourcing option: 1. 292K outsourcing 2. One off cost 140K (staff redundancy) 3. 40% saving of other costs 240K - 144K cost In total it makes 790K cost for next year Where is the mistake?
KimKimTutor3y ago#7
Have you read the preceding posts? Is the 20% increase not relevant also?
Ccandidate3y ago#8
Dear Kim, thanks for reply. 20% increase will be applied to the 2 Fully Qualified (FQ) Accountants and one Part Qualified (PQ) Accountant only
AAfrodite3y ago#9
Hi! As Kim mentioned earlier there are 4 elements of the total accounting cost for Option B: - The outsourcing cost: 292 - Redundancy cost: 25% of the current annual salaries of the redundancy - but here you have to take into account those who plan to leave before Mexit as the company do not have to pay any redundancy cost after them (this information was in the first spreadsheet) - Remaining other cost after the saving, so you have to calculate with the 60%, not the 40 - Cost of the remained staff - here you have to apply the 20% increase only for the retained FQs and PQ as already mentioned and add it to the unchanged salary of the Head of accounting. I hope you can calculate it now, my answer was correct and I could pass this quiz.
FFasih3y ago#10
Can you please share the ans?
KimKimTutor3y ago#11
@Fasih - please consider the ETHICS of your request - there is more than enough information on this thread
CCezar2y ago#12
Can you please let me know what I did wrong in my calculations? It still shows as wrong when I input 927.
KimKimTutor2y ago#13
@Cezar102 - please read the "tips" in semkoua's post above (July 21)
Mmayowa2y ago#14
I hope you were all able to get the correct answer. To add to Semkoua's explanations, amortisation has to be included is included in the 60% of other costs. I have just spent over 1 hour doing this question and that was the only part missing
MMoses2y ago#15
Hi guys ,am stuck am not sure where am getting it wrong
KimKimTutor2y ago#16
@mozy – please read the “tips” in semkoua’s post above (July 21)
MMoses2y ago#17
Hello Smith I am still getting the wrong figure it been trying over 6 times.. Am not sure where am missing it.
MMoses2y ago#18
Cost of outsourcing 292k One of cost (25%*370)140k Cost after saving (60%× 240) 144k Increase in salaries(120k* 1.2) 144k Head of department salary 70k Total 790. I don't where is the mistake?
Mmeghana2y ago#19
hi did u get the answer to it I tried multiple times
KimKimTutor2y ago#20
I suggest @semkoua July 21, 2023 at 10:04 pm on this thread pretty much spells out the answer
JJeremiah2y ago#21
For the redundancy cost, is it 25% of 560 = 140k ? Since 560 is it's annual current salary?
CCharlotte2y ago#22
Hi I am also very stuck on this. I am getting the answer of 689000
AAimiu2y ago#24
Thank you for this reply! I was missing the information that some employees wanted to leave anyway. My only additional tip is to consider that "other non-staff accounting department costs" refers to: "Amortisation of non-current assets" and "Accounting admin costs: materials and variable overheads". You should consider 60% of these costs remain. Good luck to everyone! :)
EEddie2y ago#25
The main tip you need to remember is for this question you only need 2 from 3 correct. Q3 is one or the other and you will find out the right answer the first time you attempt to answer it. Therefore you only need to answer one of the number questions correct to proceed. Concentrate on A, it is by far easier. All you need to do is work out the salary costs including increases and additional 25%, no need for redundancy costs as it doesn't tell you to calculate. Final tip for A - remember the other finance costs as well.
MMohamedSupporter2y ago#26
Finally got the answer... Thanks all for the tips
JJordan2y ago#27
Hi, I have followed this and still not getting the correct answer. I get £586k and still not right ....
KimKimTutor2y ago#28
See in the posts on the previous page https://opentuition.com/topic/problem-in-calculating-outsourcing-cost - there is also a 20% that you are not factoring in to your calculation
JJordan2y ago#29
Hi Kim, I had the FQ x 2 at £90k and then 1 PQ at £30k, makes £120k, and £24k (20%) then at the £70 for the HOA for staff cost of £214k...
JJordan2y ago#30
Thanks for the tip. Spent hours on hours trying to do the insourcing one and this one took me 10/15 min ha!
RRuth2y ago#31
Hello, Please, was the HOD amount also considered in the 25% increase in payroll cost?
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