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pre post profit

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  • November 20, 2017 at 7:54 am #416808
    stepstothebest
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    PANDAR (Dec 09 past exam).

    Sir, there are so much words and figures, therefore please allow me to write down bullet points sorry.

    ii) Immediately after its acquisition of Salva, Pandar invested $50 M in an 8% loan not from Salva. All interest accruing to 30 Spetember 2009 has been accounted for by both companies. Salva also has other loans in issue at 30 Septemebr 2009.

    What i want to know is how this pre and post RE questions affect SOPL and SOPF elements.

    Salva

    invest income.. 2000
    salva pat………21000
    …………………..23000

    pre
    23000*6/12=11500
    post
    21000-11500=9500

    this bullet point affects Finance costs, NCI porfit( cuz post RE 9500 must be used to calculate NCI profit), W2(Subsidiary net asset cuz post of 9500 is used and FVNA@DOA can be taken).

    all the elements above are the elements that affect SOPL.

    Now i jot down elements that affect SOFP. ( this is just “what if” question cuz i haven’t met this kind of question that asks me to make Consolidated SOFP)

    Loan $50M in SOFP
    the Finance cost of 2000 should be added to CRE(consolidated Retained Earning)(not sure)

    the adjusted elements above in SOPF are correct?

    BYCOMB ( past exam june 15)

    this is the other question that requires me to get pre and post RE with interests.

    ii) On 1 April 2014, Cyclip commenced the construction of a new production facility, financing this by a bank loan. Cyclip has followed the local GAAP in the country where it operated which prohibits the capitalisation of interest. Bycomb has calculated that, in accordance with IAS 23 Borrowing Costs, interest of $100,000(which accrued evenly throughout the year) would have been capitalised at 31 March 2015. The production facility is still under construction as at 31 March 2015.

    PAT 2400
    int ..100
    ……..2500
    pre 625
    post 1775

    In fact, this question doesn’t ask to get elements in SOFP. this is also “what if” question sir

    affected elements in SOPL are NCI profit, Finance cost, and W2(Subsidiary Net Asset)

    affected elements in SOFP are CRE and NCA(interest of 1000)

    know clearly how they work in SOPL but am not sure of how they work in SOFP.

    thank you for your help:)

    November 20, 2017 at 9:29 am #416845
    MikeLittle
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    All of this is covered in lectures, in course notes and in revision lectures – have you worked through that material?

    Your figures for Pandar and Salva are agreed except for:

    “the Finance cost of 2000 should be added to CRE(consolidated Retained Earning)(not sure)”

    Why are you adding intra-group loan interest to consolidated retained earnings? That doesn’t make sense!

    Re Cyclip … you haven’t told me the date on which Bycomb acquired Cyclip (1 July, 2014)

    In addition, $1,775 + $625 does NOT add up to $2,500

    “affected elements in SOFP are CRE and NCA(interest of 1000)”

    Net Current Assets? $1,000????

    This adjustment also affects the calculation of the nci on the statement of financial position

    Work through the course notes, watch the lectures and follow the worked examples in the Revision notes that you’ll find on the F7 home page including my worked answer to the question Pandar

    https://opentuition.com/acca/f7/acca-f7-december-2009-question-1-pandar/

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