• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar
Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free Notes, Lectures, Tests and Forums for ACCA and CIMA exams

  • ACCA
  • CIMA
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Books
  • Forums
  • Ask AI
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
  • ACCA Forums
  • Ask ACCA Tutor
  • CIMA Forums
  • Ask CIMA Tutor
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Buy/Sell Books
  • All Forums
  • Latest Topics

20% off ACCA & CIMA Books

OpenTuition recommends the new interactive BPP books for March and June 2025 exams.
Get your discount code >>

Pre-acq. retained earnings(Pumice G/will calculation)

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FR Exams › Pre-acq. retained earnings(Pumice G/will calculation)

  • This topic has 4 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 13 years ago by drose.
Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • May 24, 2011 at 9:03 pm #48598
    drose
    Member
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 18
    • ☆

    Why wasn’t the accrued loan interest for the 10 % Loan Note added back to profit before multiplying by 6/12 as was done for Pandar -Qu.1 in Dec.’09?(2+.5) *6/12=1.25 instead of 2*6/12=1 . Please explain.Thanks.

    May 25, 2011 at 9:47 am #82269
    MikeLittle
    Keymaster
    • Topics: 27
    • Replies: 23309
    • ☆☆☆☆☆

    Silverton’s profit after tax for the year was $2m. That year’s profits is after deducting a year’s worth of loan interest. There is no information that the loan was only issued part way through the year, so loan interest must have been accounted for for the full year within that $2m profit figure.

    In Pandar, the $50m loan was issued AFTER the acquisition and therefore existed only for 6 months. Thus, profit for the year in Pandar did NOT accrue evenly – the loan interest of 2,000 was entirely post acquisition

    May 25, 2011 at 9:25 pm #82270
    drose
    Member
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 18
    • ☆

    Thanks, but I am still a bit confused ,since it was on 1/10/05 Pumice acquired the 10 % loan note and the statement date is 31/3/06 which is a six months period.

    May 26, 2011 at 1:42 pm #82271
    MikeLittle
    Keymaster
    • Topics: 27
    • Replies: 23309
    • ☆☆☆☆☆

    Er, No! It’s a 12 month period we’re looking at.

    Profits for the year were 21,000 after loan interest. Add back the 2,000 loan interest to get to evenly accrued profits = 23,000. Divide by 2 = 11,500 for each half year. Now deduct the 2,000 from the second half 11,500 to find post acquisition profits = 9,500.

    Profits for 6 months up to the date of acquisition ( ie pre- acquisition profits for the 6 months is 11,500.

    Add that to the retained earnings brought forward will give you total retained earnings pre-acquisition

    Is that any clearer?

    May 28, 2011 at 7:26 pm #82272
    drose
    Member
    • Topics: 1
    • Replies: 18
    • ☆

    Yes I do agree with this explanation,but why is the treatment in Pumice different?What is the difference between Pandar and Pumice?To me it is the same. In Pumice the net profit for the year 1/4 09 -31/3/10 was $2m.The 50% loan note s was acq’d on 1//10/09 which should be in the post acq period.Profit was assumed to accrue evenly throughout the year,that’s why

    Thanks, I do agree with your explanation and applied the same technique for Pumice,since the n/profit for the year 1/4 /09-31/3/10 was $2m; the 50.% of S 10% loan note was acq’d 1/10/09 which should be in the post acq. period – 6/12 mths;profit was assumed to acquire evenly throughout the year.Wasn’t this post acq. interest for the loan note to be added back to the n/profit also to calculate the pre acq R/E like in Pandar? Why is it treated differently? Please explain.Thank you.

  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Log In

Primary Sidebar

Donate
If you have benefited from our materials, please donate

ACCA News:

ACCA My Exam Performance for non-variant

Applied Skills exams is available NOW

ACCA Options:  “Read the Mind of the Marker” articles

Subscribe to ACCA’s Student Accountant Direct

ACCA CBE 2025 Exams

How was your exam, and what was the exam result?

BT CBE exam was.. | MA CBE exam was..
FA CBE exam was.. | LW CBE exam was..

Donate

If you have benefited from OpenTuition please donate.

PQ Magazine

Latest Comments

  • singhjyoti on Basic group structures – SPLOCI introduction and example – ACCA (SBR) lectures
  • singhjyoti on Basic group structures – SPLOCI introduction and example – ACCA (SBR) lectures
  • Ken Garrett on Project management – ACCA Strategic Business Leader (SBL)
  • Kim Smith on IASB Conceptual Framework – Introduction – ACCA Financial Reporting (FR)
  • Farhaan on Project management – ACCA Strategic Business Leader (SBL)

Copyright © 2025 · Support · Contact · Advertising · OpenLicense · About · Sitemap · Comments · Log in