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Performance materiality

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  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 months ago by krrish2005.
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  • June 23, 2024 at 5:58 pm #707554
    krrish2005
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    Sir i wanted to confirm something

    We define the financial statement materiality level
    Then define performance materiality level

    After that how we proceed?

    Do we then take all the transactions above peformance materiality level for sampling so as to test tge detail of selected transactions from the sample

    Or some other way?

    June 23, 2024 at 6:09 pm #707556
    krrish2005
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    I exactly want to know how test of details is done relative to performance materiality

    Is it like they check every transaction above performance materialoty level by tests of details?

    June 23, 2024 at 6:11 pm #707557
    Kim Smith
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    All transactions and balances exceeding performance materiality would have to be tested in some way, but not necessarily “sampled”. For example, depreciation expense might exceed performance materiality, but tested with a “proof in a total” (substantive analytical procedure).

    June 23, 2024 at 6:25 pm #707566
    krrish2005
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    So you mean if i am testing in detail

    I will take all transaction above performance materiality only for sampling?

    June 23, 2024 at 7:03 pm #707567
    Kim Smith
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    Short answer – no. If you selected only the larger amounts that wouldn’t be audit sampling, it would be 100% selection of a subpopulation. Although some types of sampling will guarantee selecting all larger amounts, e.g. MUS, samples must be representative of a population (otherwise it’s not possible to draw valid conclusions) and therefore include smaller amounts. Please see the Audit Sampling chapter for an illustration.

    June 23, 2024 at 7:44 pm #707569
    krrish2005
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    sir i dont understand why study hub is saying
    All matters identified as material must be subject to tests of details
    shouldnt it be using sampling or some other method as you said?

    June 24, 2024 at 8:03 am #707572
    Kim Smith
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    What it says in the hub chapter 10 is:

    “All matters that are identified as being material must be subject to detailed audit work
    (e.g. tested in detail). The auditor must then use his judgment in dealing with the
    remaining items (e.g. sampling or analytical procedures).”

    Suppose performance materiality is $250k and PPE includes six properties with carrying amount exceeding $250k – the auditor must test them all – 100% is not sampling.

    Tests of details on the properties might include inspecting them (all) and examining invoices for an additions to cost (a sample might be suitable for this).

    Sampling is only suitable for larger populations. Look at Activity 2 in the Study Hub Chapter – selecting all (100%) of the largest balances is not sampling.

    June 24, 2024 at 8:15 am #707574
    krrish2005
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    So in basic there is no compulsion to test in detail all the items above materiality

    Its just that if there is a small population, we can test all item

    Right?

    June 24, 2024 at 12:55 pm #707584
    Kim Smith
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    If you’re looking for a “rule”, I would say the opposite – that all items above performance materiliaty must be tested (with tests of details).

    If performance materiality is $25,000, say, the auditor must obtain sufficient appropriate audit evidence that every individual transaction and account balance that is $25,000 or more is not materially misstated. This can only be ascertained by testing them.

    June 24, 2024 at 2:19 pm #707588
    krrish2005
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    Okay now i got it
    Summary
    All items above performance materiality must be tested in detail.
    And for all transaction below performance materiality sampling is a good option….take a sample and test them in detail

    Right?

    June 24, 2024 at 2:28 pm #707589
    Kim Smith
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    Right!

    June 24, 2024 at 3:15 pm #707592
    krrish2005
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    Finally got it sir.

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