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- December 13, 2010 at 6:41 am #74311
I think the general problem is that most of us were ready for figure crunching but we were sadly disappointed. However, I found that last june’s BPP mock question was one of those tested. For me, my greatest challenge was actually the q1, all the answers are so interwoven I just can’t help but wonder if I had answered all the questions in one part?!! Otherwisr, it did seem like we were writing a P3 exam, KPI,CSF and emissions . . . God help us all !!!
December 13, 2010 at 8:21 am #74312AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Can’t read all those complaining that paper was unfair and differs from past ones. You are studying on professional level to get membership in honourable professional oranization thus expected to be ready for all challenges othervise what kind of professionals you are? I also feel this paper to be lengthy and suppose that I’ve did mistake of principle in q2, but I am not blaming examiner as being responsible for it and hope to get pass mark on 22 Feb 2011.
December 13, 2010 at 10:56 am #74313The questions were fair but too demanding, time was therefore the problem.
December 13, 2010 at 1:37 pm #74314can we get shane johnson back please? grrr~~~~~
December 13, 2010 at 2:57 pm #74315AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The paper was so confusing, i did not know what the examiner wanted. i had to read several times. The paper was base on theory and not much calculations. too much writing. it was a hard paper but i try my best.
December 14, 2010 at 12:48 pm #74316AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Since I have been doing ACCA this was the most difficult paper I wrote. It was my last paper to qualify….I will be preparing for June 2011 exams now.
December 14, 2010 at 2:34 pm #74317AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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definitely too lengthy! n those topics were examined which were kinda rare.. like VBM.
December 14, 2010 at 7:11 pm #74318AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I THINK IT IS UNETHICAL AND DISHONEST WHEN YOU PREPARE SO HARD AND PEOPLE BRING PAPERS LIKE THIS BOMBER….NOT MUCH HOPE OF PASSING
UMARDecember 14, 2010 at 7:31 pm #74319AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The p5 paper was really hard and was very different . i personnally thing if Critical success factor or Enviromental Accounting or z score were very important topics then there should have been some articles abt them or anyone of the topics . This paper wasnt like the questions of the revision kit so wats the whole point of doing a revision kit when not even a single question or anything similar to those revision kit questions came in the exam.
The paper was too lenghty and theory oriented. I had prepared myself for the practical part. i believe most of us were shocked with the whole thoery part especially the first question it has neva been 100% theory there were always sum practical bitss.
I believe if the examiner had a different approach then it should have been mentioned sumwhere in the articles . For this session not a single topic related article was published for P5 . Over all i doubt this paper wud have a gud pass rate …i reallly hope i get thru thou the chances luk really lesss…i wish everyone the very best.December 14, 2010 at 8:50 pm #74320@terryann1 said:
Not a good paper for me at all. Though it brings no comfort to me, it gives some sense of relief to hear most of you say that Q1 was an unfair question and that it appears to be more P3. That was my feeling from the very beginning but eventually blamed myself that I was under prepared. I have not done P3 as yet but had started to look through the notes for next time around and remember seeing something on CSF. After my P5 exam, I went to opentuition notes and saw nothing on CSF. I then turned to BPP text and found only one sentence on CSF in the entire book (not the most recent text). Furthermore, I searched for the technical article that someone mentioned and could not find any. To have a full question on CSF for P5 (31 marks, the highest on the paper) is rediculous and unfair to us as students.Completely agree with terryann1: it is ridiculous and unfair to have a full 31-mark question based on one small paragraph in an article published in 2006 for the old sillabus. This is an exam. In my opinion an exam should test the most important and practical topics relevant to the qualification. Most of us work full time and struggle to find sufficient time for studies. ACCA appointed “official publishers” whose textbooks do not cover topics tested in the exam. To me it is unfair that we are expected not just to read and get familiar, but to memorise content of all technical articles to be able to asnwer to exam questions. Why then to appoint “official puiblishers”? Publish everything on ACCA website and we will know that we need to read what is on the website and not to waste time on rubbish textbooks and lectures. Ofr even state that there is no limit to tested material: anything relevant to “Advanced Performance Management” can be tested at the exam.
Btw, I downloaded the article on monitoring and building CFSs on Saturday, 11 December 2010 and the title said that it was “relevant to Professional Scheme Papers 3.4 and 3.5”. If you open the article now you will notice that ACCA has already changed the title to “relevant to ACCA Qualification Papers P3 and P5”. How does this sound for you? Is not it unfair?
Once again, ACCA examiners should understand that this is an exam and there should be some standards and the defined sillabus tested. Students, official publishers and tuitors should be aware of what will be tested to be able to prepare/teach for the exam. If an examiner is changed he/she should be informed about current sillabus taught/studied. To me, it should be made clear what models are tested in each particular question, just like standards tested in P2. Otherwise all of us are just playing a lottery.December 15, 2010 at 5:15 am #74321AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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question1 was a difficult q asked by the examiner as compared to other questions, paper p5, seems to be much more difficult as i expect… lets hope for the best…
December 15, 2010 at 6:52 am #74322AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Too much of theories and less calculations..I understand that P level is more to theories but this sitting is too much.It seems like taking P1 or P3 instead of P5. Time allocated for this paper is not enough and abit unfair for those who practiced the past year papers because is totally different from previous diets.the fact that theory questions being asked more this sitting, it has taken up alot of candidate’s time in writing and analysing. Not fair at all for the candidates.Should bear in mind on the time that candidates have to answer the whole question paper.
December 15, 2010 at 11:16 am #74323AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@yuriyp said:
Can’t read all those complaining that paper was unfair and differs from past ones. You are studying on professional level to get membership in honourable
professional oranization thus expected to be ready for all challenges othervise what kind of professionals you are? I also feel this paper to be lengthy and suppose that I’ve did mistake of principle in q2, but I am not blaming examiner as being responsible for it and hope to get pass mark on 22 FebEven if it was challenging there are key topics for p5 & we were expecting a questions on those key parts but none did appear… shld we say the paper was fair and a p level????
December 15, 2010 at 12:32 pm #74324Guys – please fill in the feedback on ACCA website https://www.accaglobal.com/allnews/students/2010/NEWSQ4/News/3381129
for this paper or any other paper. Seriously they need to change their strategy and what they doing to us after studying so hard for months and paying all this money !
December 16, 2010 at 8:58 am #74325AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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This paper was really hard for me. I stopped thinking in the exam room and ended up messing up on simple calculations like EVA . Much as we are being tested to be professionals, the style of questions was really tricky. I was re-sitting this paper and truthfully speaking June exams were far much better. It’s really disappointing with one paper to go. Anyway let’s not give up guys, i hope June 11 exams will be fair.
December 16, 2010 at 9:18 am #74326AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For me,it’s hard…im not expecting so many theory as what come out in the question. We are expecting more calculation on this. I dont know whether can pass or not..but,i really hope examiner more linean in examine the paper. I really hope that i pass this paper since it’s my last paper…
December 16, 2010 at 11:45 am #74327AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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It was one horrible exam, where you don’t expect to see 1 Numerical mark in Question 1 worth of 31 marks.
completely insane!!!
December 16, 2010 at 11:58 am #74328AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The more I think about this exam the more I quite liked it!! Apart from Q1 of course which didnt test students knowledge of the syllabus at all.
I am quite confident for 21st February and just hope I have done enough to pass.
The calculations were ok with the EVA etc and the ABC & Absorption costing for the 16 units were relatively easy so all in all a quite nice rounded exam.
Q1 was a bit of a strange one but kept going and managed to finish the exam with 5 minutes still to spare to check through everything.
Neatest exam paper I have ever written too so am hoping to pick up max professional marks (6% of exam). May just push me over the pass limit to becoming qualified in Feb 🙂December 16, 2010 at 8:45 pm #74329AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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OMG..the approach taken by the examiner is totally strange.I have never practiced past exams like I did for this siting.Unfortunately it was all nonsense,Alex has changed everything as he want regardless of the past exams,articles and pilot papers.It was better to issue articles that will guide us instead of working to trick students.
Good luck all us!!!!
December 17, 2010 at 7:47 am #74330i am yet to attempt the P5 so i wanted to sample people’s views abt the exams b4 i do that.
December 17, 2010 at 8:21 am #74331AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Will you update the lectures or the course notes for P1 and P5 for the June session? do you know if there will be any large changes to the syllabus?
December 17, 2010 at 3:01 pm #74332AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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If ACCA really changed the heading “relevant to paper 3.4 and 3.5” to “P3 and P5” after Dec.11th then…. that doesnt sound good at all. Also, not only that Q1 was a full 31 marks question but it was COMPULSORY. Not fair at all.
December 17, 2010 at 4:09 pm #74333Question one was fully a P5 Question..and not P3 as some people are pointing out.Critical Success Factors are what your KPI’s are based on and thats a major in Performance Management..You get measured based on KPIs ..which are in turn based on CSFs…get it???..
December 17, 2010 at 10:29 pm #74334AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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too much horible
it’s really very difficult to solve
very different
because my mind was not think about such a patternDecember 17, 2010 at 11:54 pm #74335AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i was challenged with both question 1 and d2. 2. my fingrs hurt so much after all that writing. i was hoping that the theory would have showed up in 20 markers . however still hoping for the best
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